A 52 win Season. Under, Meet, or Exceed expectations?

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  1. Strenuus

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    Yep! One of us is definitely having difficulty with the concept.

    But I do see teams defending Damian just like the coach I worked for explained. I didn't have any trouble understanding his concept. We had a pretty fair relationship, I listened, I scouted, and then I answer questions, he coached. He was quite successful, he laid out a defense for a PG quite well known in that day a scoring machine actually, but the coach knew just how to counter and it worked well enough. The guard was Jerry West and the coach was Pete Newell. Damian is not as good as West and the coaches today probably aren't as thoughtful as Pete, but they do understand the concept. At least that is my read when I get to watch the defenses hone in on Damian, he himself leaves the clues to be read for those that can read. West learned to be less predictable.
     
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    Not to take anything away from your experience or what you have done for many years. Experiences like that must have really been a blessing. However, There is no freakin way Pete Newell ever guarded Jerry West the same way teams are guarding Damian Lillard in this day and age. The entire NBA game has completely changed in just about every way. Sorry. I ain't buying that. You might as well say "Hey if you score more you will win the game!".
     
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    Ha! Yeah guys tell me all the time about how things have changed. You are just one more.

    Let me ask you something, do you remember when Dr Jack coached in Portland? Did you ever see Pete Carril lukring about occasionally? Or maybe at Sac game back when they were contenders?
    How about Tex Winter around the LA team? Those guys have been around longer than me. WTF would anyone want an ancient basketball mind like that hanging about? The game as changed you know!!
    Bullshit!
     
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    Not only do you make my case when you bring up Tex but you do realize Jerry West didn't even play with a 3 point shot right?
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/westje01.html
    Bullshit is right! Yeah I watched Jack Ramsey. Heck i even watched Rolland Todd.
     
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    I wouldn't say that at all, perhaps you meant it didn't get scored as 3.
    I would say he had a almost as good a 3 point shot as Petrie, way better than Damian. The 3 pointer for him is kinda like,, he has to have it!
    It needs to be cured he's not all that good at it.
     
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    Okay. The game is exactly the same as it was in '72. Every knowledgeable basketball representative from anywhere in the world will disagree with you but if that is the way you see it i can appreciate that. To each his own.
     
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    What was this again?
     
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    Forget the playoffs at this point our main worry should be if LMA decides to stick around. The late season collapse we're having is the doomsday scenario we hoped would never happen..

    I'm already at peace with this season being a disappointment lets just focus on LMA deciding to stick around..
     
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    LaMarcus is going to leave the Blazers because they are losing games because LaMarcus is injured.

    Makes perfect sense.
     
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    Yeah, he should definitely go to a team that doesn't need him so that they can win when he's injured. That's the spirit of a champion.
     
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    Yeah because Dallas or NY will give him such a better chance at winning a title.
     
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    The team now does not seem like they have a group togetherness, the group that seemed like they felt they could do (can do) anything together.
     
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    Oh come on man! We have had rules changes but the way defenses, clued in by observing Damian tendencies, are hounding him, has been around for years. It looks to me just like doing it as Pete Newell explained over 50 years ago. Perhaps you don't notice, but I sure do. The basics of the game have not changed much at all, probably less coaches teaching the fine points of the game but the better ones, still in the game will eventually figure out what to do.
     
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    I find it hard to believe the same team that won 8 of 9 before this current 4 game losing streak suddenly doesn't have togetherness... It's called a slump, and I'm pretty sure it's happened before.

    They played 5 road games in 7 nights and lost 4 of them. It sucks but that's what happened. And as I've been saying, Stotts shouldn't have been playing his starters so much, especially during a 5 game in 7 night stretch... It's just STUPID. And what do you know, two guys get injured in the 5th game...

    Stotts should rest his other starters as well tonight, and then again either on Friday or Saturday. Yes we're going to lose a few more games, that's going to happen anyway since Batum/Aldridge/Kaman are all out. So just rest them. FUCK THE NBA for scheduling back to back 5-in-7 game stretches at this point in the season. So fuck TNT's ratings and rest your guys. OKC is going to draw closer before it's all over, but the important thing, the only important thing is to get them rested/healthy and then try to make a run to close out the season. All that matters is if they're healthy and playing well at the end of the season.

    But unless Stotts starts looking at this situation a little more pragmatically, all he's going to do is continue to run the starters into the ground while continuing to lose.

    I don't know how the season is going to play out, but all you chicken-little's just need to take a deep breath. The season is not over yet.
     
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    perhaps you are right, They are tired and dejected together.
     
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    I'll take idiotic statements for $1000 Alex.
     
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    I reread it again. It makes sense. Sorry
     

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