One That im reminded of is the Pistons in 2000 and the Pistons in 2001, they went from 32-50, to 50-32 that year, thats when Rip started to emerge, and so did billups, and wallace, and the rest of the championship crew in 2002. Oh man in 2001 that was the year I thought the Pistons would fall to the Raptors in the first round Can anyone think of any other one season turn arounds?
<span style="font-family:Comic Sans Ms">Well, if we're referring to worse, I must say: Philadelphia 76ers.They went from Finals participants to barely reaching the Playoffs...Anyway, if we're referring to best, I must mention: Cleveland Cavaliers.In 04-05, they did not make the Playoffs... At all! In 05-06, the Cavs won 50 games! That's crazy.</span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Dec 12 2006, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Memphis Grizzlies:<u>2002-2003 Season</u>:28-53 (.341)<u>2003-2004 Season</u>:50-32 (.610)</div>What did happen that '02 season?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Dec 13 2006, 12:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Memphis Grizzlies:<u>2002-2003 Season</u>:28-53 (.341)<u>2003-2004 Season</u>:50-32 (.610)</div><u>2006-2007 Season</u>:5-16 (.238)
Why the F*ck are you talking? You of all fans should understand what a major injury can do. Atleast memphis isnt dumb enough to trade off Rudy Gay.Sorry...but your comment pissed me off. Memphis should have a free-bee like Houston did last year.
Phoenix went from 29-35 in 04 to 60-20 in 05. I think that is the single greatest turn around in NBA history.
Here are the three biggest of all timeSan Antonio: 1997-98 NBA 56 - 261996-97 NBA 20 - 6236 gamesReason: David Robinson comes back from injury, Duncan draftedBoston:1979-80 NBA 61 - 211978-79 NBA 29 - 5332 gamesReason: Larry birdPhoenix:2004-05 NBA 62 - 202003-04 NBA 29 - 5333 gamesreason: nash, healthy amare, qrich
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Dec 13 2006, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why the F*ck are you talking? You of all fans should understand what a major injury can do. Atleast memphis isnt dumb enough to trade off Rudy Gay.Sorry...but your comment pissed me off. Memphis should have a free-bee like Houston did last year.</div>That trade of Gay for Battier has looked like a good trade for both teams so far, I don't see it as being dumb at all. What I find funny is how last year with the Grizzlies, Battiers team gave up the fewest points per game in the league during the regular season. Now this year, the Rockets with Battier on the team is giving up the fewest points per game. Now by no means am I saying that Battier is completely to blame, but he plays a nice part in why both teams are so good at defense. Furthermore, even with Gasol your team would not look to much better, they would still be one of the bottom teams in the Western Conference so while you want to blame that injury, your team is just terrible this year and will be terrible pretty much the entire season.As for turnarounds, how bout the year after going 26-56, the Nets go 52-30 with Kidd after getting Jason Kidd. That is a nice turnaround, and I feel Kidd was robbed by not getting MVP this year, but that is for other debates.The year after finishing with 21-61, the Magic go 41-41 after drafting Shaq in the 1992-93 season.
The Lakers in '05 and last year. They were terrible in 2005 after losing Shaq.And last year they made the playoffs and gave the #2 seeded Suns a great run for their money in the 1st round. They played so much better in the playoffs than in the regular season last year. During regulation Kobe carried the team with a giant scoring load. Early in the 1st round they played a different style where Kobe and Lamar got everyone involved.
Another one that I thought of was the Magic after Shaq came to town.91: 21-6192: 41-41Pretty good improvement..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Dec 13 2006, 02:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Utah will be on there if they continue to keep winning this year.</div>Not likely, they'd need to win 71 games this year to have a 30 game turn around; Im a Jazz fan and I don't even think that will happen. I think a 20 game turn around is possible, but highly unlikely.
Here's some little known turnarounds by the Lakers.Lakers 1998/1999- 29-21 (strike shortened season), swept out of Semifinals by SpursLakers 1999/2000- 67-15, NBA champsReason-Phil Jackson bringing Kobe and Shaq together, utilizing his other options well.And if we're talking midseason, how about LA in 2000/2001. they were 48-26 up until April 1, then went 8-0 to finish the season off, 15-1 in the playoffs, and started the next season 16-1, that's a combined 39-2. There was no real reason for this turnaround other than the Lakers just flipping the switch on.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Dec 13 2006, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That trade of Gay for Battier has looked like a good trade for both teams so far, I don't see it as being dumb at all. What I find funny is how last year with the Grizzlies, Battiers team gave up the fewest points per game in the league during the regular season. Now this year, the Rockets with Battier on the team is giving up the fewest points per game. Now by no means am I saying that Battier is completely to blame, but he plays a nice part in why both teams are so good at defense. Furthermore, even with Gasol your team would not look to much better, they would still be one of the bottom teams in the Western Conference so while you want to blame that injury, your team is just terrible this year and will be terrible pretty much the entire season.As for turnarounds, how bout the year after going 26-56, the Nets go 52-30 with Kidd after getting Jason Kidd. That is a nice turnaround, and I feel Kidd was robbed by not getting MVP this year, but that is for other debates.The year after finishing with 21-61, the Magic go 41-41 after drafting Shaq in the 1992-93 season.</div>This thread isnt for arguing so this all im going to say....Saying Memphis is a terrible to is outragous. Mike Miller, Dahntey Jones and Warrick has only made our team better. Then you add Stoudamire coming back and Gasol being 100%, we would be a top team in the west. We were supposed to be 6th seed last year, weve only gotten better so how would we be a lower seed?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Dec 13 2006, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This thread isnt for arguing so this all im going to say....Saying Memphis is a terrible to is outragous. Mike Miller, Dahntey Jones and Warrick has only made our team better. Then you add Stoudamire coming back and Gasol being 100%, we would be a top team in the west. We were supposed to be 6th seed last year, weve only gotten better so how would we be a lower seed?</div>First off, this is a forumn for basketball debate, so that is what I am doing is debating.Second, You guys haven't gotten better at all, and even with Gasol you would not be a top team in the West. Your guys defense has taken a big hit this year, giving up 96 points per game right now, which is no where near what it was last year. Top teams don't give up 96 points per game, and score only 93 points per game, which is what you guys are doing right now. That team last year had the veterans and players to not play this horribly in Gasol's absence, had he gone out because they would have still had a decent defense. This years team does not have defense, and that's why I think they are worse than last year.
Pau Gasol mad ea HUGE difference on offense and defense. He averahed 5 assist and 20 points a game last year. Not to mention around 2 blocks a game which made it scary in the middle for penetrators. Eddie Jones who was probably a better one-on-one defender than Battier has been out and is just now coming back. Dahntey Jones emergence makes up for alotve Battiers defense and B Jacks offense off the bench and Hakim Warricks offense exceeds Shanes offense ALOT. So not even seeing the Grizzlies with there best player healthy and saying they are a terrible team is stupid. Just really idiotic. You cant judge a team as a whole AT ALL unless you see them all healthy together. And yes this is a bball forum where we should debate, but this is a topic about season turn-arounds, not about how wrong you are about the Grizzlies being terrible when all players are healthy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Dec 13 2006, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pau Gasol mad ea HUGE difference on offense and defense. He averahed 5 assist and 20 points a game last year. Not to mention around 2 blocks a game which made it scary in the middle for penetrators. Eddie Jones who was probably a better one-on-one defender than Battier has been out and is just now coming back. Dahntey Jones emergence makes up for alotve Battiers defense and B Jacks offense off the bench and Hakim Warricks offense exceeds Shanes offense ALOT. So not even seeing the Grizzlies with there best player healthy and saying they are a terrible team is stupid. Just really idiotic. You cant judge a team as a whole AT ALL unless you see them all healthy together. And yes this is a bball forum where we should debate, but this is a topic about season turn-arounds, not about how wrong you are about the Grizzlies being terrible when all players are healthy.</div>You overrate your team so much. It gets old. The Grizz are not contenders. :thumbdn1: Did you say B Jacks? Bobby Jackson? Last time I checked, he was a Hornet.This forum is for debating. We are debating with you about the topic. I think the Grizzlies went from sucky to sucky, and you think they went from sucky to spectacular.