Is Iverson a cancer?

Discussion in 'NBA General' started by BALLAHOLLIC, Dec 13, 2006.

  1. ballerman2112

    ballerman2112 BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 19 2007, 04:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He is not a cancer they need time to gel. He got traded to Denver cause they are rebuilding now. And they first did not have Melo+JR. Then JR is back AI has to change. Then Melo is back AI has to change again. Camby was hurt during the Melo/JR suspension. Then AI got a injury, and then Blake banged up, Melo banged up a little, Camby hurting. And I am sure AI is not fully 100% yet or even close even though he is playing they need time to gel man. Like I said they need time to gel get it thru your head it take a year for them to really know each other GOOD.OMG they are on a high wake up we suck I am a Sixers fan also.He was the problem in Philly DET is a good D team so his bad D hides very well. Or maybe it's cause he is playing with 3 all stars in Billups, Rip, and Sheed? Hmm</div>They have had enough time to "gel". Look at Philly...As soon as AI is sent out of town, they start to do good. They didnt need time to adjust to him being gone. As soon as they he left and they got Andre Miller, they started doing well. As for Denver, they got a better player yet they do worse since he got there. Im sorry, but can you explain any of that. I can understand that it might take time for a team to start clicking, but as soon as AI leaves Philadelphia, they start to do well. Philly isnt on a high...They have consistently been playing better since AI's departure. That isnt a coincidence. Im sorry, but there is nothing that you can say to change my views...It is pretty blatantly to me.
     
  2. BigMo763

    BigMo763 Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2006
    Messages:
    3,950
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Denver is just now getting into a rhythm. They have won four straight games, including a very impressive victory over PHX. They absolutely did not have enough consistency and time to gel prior to this, why? Well, we all know about the suspensions, then Iverson missed 8 or 9 games prior to the ASG with an ankle injury, along with JR Smith missing time after having arthroscopic knee surgery. Defensively they are getting better... but we'll see.I think their record down the stretch is going to be very misleading, considering they have the most difficult remaining schedule in the league.Philly is struggling now, unfortunately. I think Iggy is going to open a few more eyes next year when he'll be able to start the season as the main guy (unless we get Oden/Durant).Iverson isn't a "cancer" like Starbury is... but he is very difficult to build around and play with. I think Karl has finally figured out how to structure the offense, etc., and the team is finally progressing defensively.As for the Sixers... well, let's just say we probably won't do any worse than that 50 point loss to Houston. :no1:
     
  3. Serge

    Serge BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2006
    Messages:
    4,189
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ Mar 19 2007, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Andre Igoudala is a star caliber player. One of the things that makes him so good is his passing...and you cant argue he gets alotve assists cause hes team is bad...thats just stupid. Hes a star...</div>He does pass nice, but he is NOT A STAR he is a very good player there is a diff.If so don't agree that Arenas is a star, and those who don't are nuts I think then there is no way Iggy is a STAR.But he is a very good player.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Mar 19 2007, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They have had enough time to "gel". Look at Philly...As soon as AI is sent out of town, they start to do good. They didnt need time to adjust to him being gone. As soon as they he left and they got Andre Miller, they started doing well. As for Denver, they got a better player yet they do worse since he got there. Im sorry, but can you explain any of that. I can understand that it might take time for a team to start clicking, but as soon as AI leaves Philadelphia, they start to do well. Philly isnt on a high...They have consistently been playing better since AI's departure. That isnt a coincidence. Im sorry, but there is nothing that you can say to change my views...It is pretty blatantly to me.</div>They had no time to gel dude your a joke if you think they had enough time to gel. AI+Melo only played about 15 games together so far and half of those games you had other key guys injured.And again Philly is on a high we will be like the Knicks of last year next year unless we get like Oden/Durant/Wright one of them.The guys are forced into scoring more before they were p*ssy and hided behind AI.You clearly you be eating your words next year every team needs a season to gel when they make this big of a change. And if you knew ANYTHING about nba really you would see that.Go back to Middle school coaching.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2006
    Messages:
    4,189
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Mar 19 2007, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Denver is just now getting into a rhythm. They have won four straight games, including a very impressive victory over PHX. They absolutely did not have enough consistency and time to gel prior to this, why? Well, we all know about the suspensions, then Iverson missed 8 or 9 games prior to the ASG with an ankle injury, along with JR Smith missing time after having arthroscopic knee surgery. Defensively they are getting better... but we'll see.I think their record down the stretch is going to be very misleading, considering they have the most difficult remaining schedule in the league.Philly is struggling now, unfortunately. I think Iggy is going to open a few more eyes next year when he'll be able to start the season as the main guy (unless we get Oden/Durant).Iverson isn't a "cancer" like Starbury is... but he is very difficult to build around and play with. I think Karl has finally figured out how to structure the offense, etc., and the team is finally progressing defensively.As for the Sixers... well, let's just say we probably won't do any worse than that 50 point loss to Houston. :no1:</div>Sixers are not struggling now were have you been except the 50 point loss we had won a lot of games lately.I hate when people just say false stuff damn.But Denver is getting better on D. AI is not hard to build around Billy King just sucked at building.
     
  5. ballerman2112

    ballerman2112 BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    3,583
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Mar 20 2007, 04:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He does pass nice, but he is NOT A STAR he is a very good player there is a diff.They had no time to gel dude your a joke if you think they had enough time to gel. AI+Melo only played about 15 games together so far and half of those games you had other key guys injured.And again Philly is on a high we will be like the Knicks of last year next year unless we get like Oden/Durant/Wright one of them.The guys are forced into scoring more before they were p*ssy and hided behind AI.You clearly you be eating your words next year every team needs a season to gel when they make this big of a change. And if you knew ANYTHING about nba really you would see that.Go back to Middle school coaching.</div>You think that I am a joke? Your only valid reason is that they need time to gel, and that the Sixers are on a high. All of that stuff is retarted. The Sixers have been around 500 since AI has been traded and that has been over 40 games. How is that on a streak? They have played better since he has left over a 40 game period. Your a joke for being that blind as to see that they arent better without him. If it was over a 5 game period where they played well and won like 4 games out of those 5, I would be easier to listen...But it has been like 40 games. And its the same thing with the Nuggetts. They have had enough time to gel. If you even play basketball, you would know that you dont need that much time to gel. If you just took a 20 point scorer from another high school in high school, your team wouldnt get worse. If you think that, you maybe should go back to middle school.And I just find it funny how you question my NBA knowledge when I know so much more than you.EDIT: Oh my god, you are such a hypocrite. The post above this you are protecting the Sixers saying that they have been playing good basketball, and a while ago, you were saying how they arent good and they have just been on a little streak. Thats gay...
     
  6. Something-To-Say

    Something-To-Say BBW Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2006
    Messages:
    6,529
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    That was a good one Justice.Anyway, I wouldn't count the win over the Suns as much. The Suns were off the last few days and I'd like to point out:Iverson against the Suns on Sunday: 16-22 FG 10-12 FTIVERSON. DOES NOT. SHOOT 16-22. HE'S A 4-24 KIND OF GUY. HE WAS ON 1 NIGHT ON THE YEAR AND YOU SAY THE WIN WAS IMPRESSIVE? ONCE HE GOES BACK TO HIS NORMAL 10-28 SELF, THE NUGGETS ARE GONE. And I'd like to point out that if the Suns play the Nuggets in the playoffs, they'll blow the Nuggets away 4-0 or 4-1.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2006
    Messages:
    4,189
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Mar 20 2007, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You think that I am a joke? Your only valid reason is that they need time to gel, and that the Sixers are on a high. All of that stuff is retarted. The Sixers have been around 500 since AI has been traded and that has been over 40 games. How is that on a streak? They have played better since he has left over a 40 game period. Your a joke for being that blind as to see that they arent better without him. If it was over a 5 game period where they played well and won like 4 games out of those 5, I would be easier to listen...But it has been like 40 games. And its the same thing with the Nuggetts. They have had enough time to gel. If you even play basketball, you would know that you dont need that much time to gel. If you just took a 20 point scorer from another high school in high school, your team wouldnt get worse. If you think that, you maybe should go back to middle school.And I just find it funny how you question my NBA knowledge when I know so much more than you.EDIT: Oh my god, you are such a hypocrite. The post above this you are protecting the Sixers saying that they have been playing good basketball, and a while ago, you were saying how they arent good and they have just been on a little streak. Thats gay...</div>Cause it's true when you make that kinda a huge trade you do need time to gel. And Sixers are not good so yes they are on a high. They are not better with out him when you take a future hall of famer on of the best to play the game you don't get better. You might ride that high to show you can still be out there and play with the best with him gone, but that will die down next season. Nuggets people keep telling you have not had enough time to gel. And they did not get worse you will see they clearly just need time to gel more.I am a Sixers fan. And they have been playing good ball I never said other wise. But Yeah they are on a high that is all. So have they been playing better RIGHT NOW Yeah they are doing good right now. But do I think it is just a high damn straight were not this good.
     
  8. Serge

    Serge BBW Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2006
    Messages:
    4,189
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Mar 21 2007, 01:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That was a good one Justice.Anyway, I wouldn't count the win over the Suns as much. The Suns were off the last few days and I'd like to point out:Iverson against the Suns on Sunday: 16-22 FG 10-12 FTIVERSON. DOES NOT. SHOOT 16-22. HE'S A 4-24 KIND OF GUY. HE WAS ON 1 NIGHT ON THE YEAR AND YOU SAY THE WIN WAS IMPRESSIVE? ONCE HE GOES BACK TO HIS NORMAL 10-28 SELF, THE NUGGETS ARE GONE. And I'd like to point out that if the Suns play the Nuggets in the playoffs, they'll blow the Nuggets away 4-0 or 4-1.</div>They will give them a better fight then that in the playoffs, but your right about Nuggets not winning that series.But AI is been at like 43% and he had no help in Philly check out his shooting % since he has been a Nugget.Exactly once you check let me know. Exactly cause he finally has help he has been shooting GREAT 70% of his game as a Nugget.
     

Share This Page