K-G vs Dwight Howard

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  1. LiveAtTheHardwood

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    Just thought that this would be an interesting one. Obviously, Kevin Garnett has more experience, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
     
  2. Delonte4Prez

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    KG end of topic. Hes even with dwight in rebounding(not stat wise but hes as good a rebounder as anyone) and better than him at everything else. KG hands down end of topic.
     
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    Well right now, Kevin Garnett. But if you were comparing the first 3 season of Kevin Garnett with Dwight Howard? Dwight Howard no doubt.
     
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    KG is the man. He is a competitor, a hard worker, and an all around ball player. Howard might get there one day, but he still has a long way to travel to touch KG's gym bag! And I like Howard a lot too...
     
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    Defiently KG. He does ALL the stuf(except the power moves)that Howard does, and he shoots better, better passer, better defender. I mean, im a major fan of Dwight, but we're talking KG.
     
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    Well, obviously KG is a better player when you look at their overall skillset, but I find it odd that even KG's supporting cast isnt that much worse than Orlando's, yet Orlando's record is alot better than Minny's(When all of the Magic's players were healthy). I hate to say it but KG in my book has never been a leader or a winner. He is a great basketball player, but he cant lead his team to a championship, let alone the playoffs. Even though KG is a better basketball player right now, Dwight will have a more successful career and I also think he will end up being a better player in general.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Dec 16 2006, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, obviously KG is a better player when you look at their overall skillset, but I find it odd that even KG's supporting cast isnt that much worse than Orlando's, yet Orlando's record is alot better than Minny's(When all of the Magic's players were healthy). I hate to say it but KG in my book has never been a leader or a winner. He is a great basketball player, but he cant lead his team to a championship, let alone the playoffs. Even though KG is a better basketball player right now, Dwight will have a more successful career and I also think he will end up being a better player in general.</div>KG has never had a guard to compliment his skill set. If he had a nice 1 or 2 to carry the load if he falters at all he would have at least a conference championship. Who's KGs best teammate ever? Wally? I dont know KG's supporting cast has always been awful. Not to mention the Magic are in the east, one of the worst conferences in sports history. And with a pretty deep team you should do well among all the terrible teams.
     
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    well even though dwight is my fav. player I have to go with KG he is a better player but everyone knows that Dwight is the best rebounder in the league
     
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    As good as Howard is for his age, I take this thread as a complete slap in the face to Kevin Garnett. He hasn't won a title yet, but look what he has accomplished throughout his career. He is an MVP player, a perenneal All-Star, can play every position, he does absolutely everything on the court, he's a leader, and he has a great attitude. To pick a 21 year old player who has never been in the playoffs or an All-Star, over Garnett (MVP in 03, an All-NBA player, the first NBA player EVER to average 20/10/5 for 6 straight seasons, has been to the conference finals, etc). It's a complete slap in the face to arguably THE most talented PF to ever play the game.
     
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    I would pick Dwight howard without even thinking about it. He is a good young player with great defensive skills, and some raw offensive skills that with time will become very good. I know most of you by now are saying WTF is wrong with you KG is much better. But let me get out my point. Alotugh KG is a solid player, for a big man he is not very talented. He is a 7 footer that plays liek a guard. Despite making some shots, his style of play is not the right one for his body. He should play more like a Duncan but with more athleticism, sadly instead of doing this he tries playing like Kobe. Also KG is not a clutch player. About a week ago the Timberwolves were beating the San Antonio Spurs and KG was having a great first half with 17 points and a lot of rebounds. However when the Spurs made a run, and teh game got close KG dissapered. In the second half of that game he only had two points that came via freethrows. All in all, Howard is the better player defensevely, and will also be the better offensive player in the future
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmgbball15 @ Dec 19 2006, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would pick Dwight howard without even thinking about it. He is a good young player with great defensive skills, and some raw offensive skills that with time will become very good. I know most of you by now are saying WTF is wrong with you KG is much better. But let me get out my point. Alotugh KG is a solid player, for a big man he is not very talented.</div>For a big man, KG is extremely talented. There are not many big men that can play down low with his back to the basket, but also go outside and create his own shot off of the dribble. He has very good shot blocking instincts, plays solid man to man defense, and is as fine of a rebounder as they come. KG might be the most talented big man in the league because of how versatile of a big man he is.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He is a 7 footer that plays liek a guard. Despite making some shots, his style of play is not the right one for his body. He should play more like a Duncan but with more athleticism, sadly instead of doing this he tries playing like Kobe.</div>If KG trys to play more like Duncan, that is going to take away from what makes him such a good player. He shouldn't play like Duncan all the time. He should play like he does now.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Also KG is not a clutch player. About a week ago the Timberwolves were beating the San Antonio Spurs and KG was having a great first half with 17 points and a lot of rebounds. However when the Spurs made a run, and teh game got close KG dissapered. In the second half of that game he only had two points that came via freethrows. All in all, Howard is the better player defensevely, and will also be the better offensive player in the future</div>Your right, KG does get more passive towards the end of the game and fail to take over games which is his one major flaw. The thing with big men like Dwight Howard, down the stretch for him to be successful he has to have people get him the ball. He is not the type of big man that is going to be able to get the ball on his own and create his own shot from outside the basket area. KG is the type of big man that can do this. He can go get the ball on his own, and create his own shot off the dribble. That's one reason why I like a big man like KG, who can take the ball inside on his own, as well as receive a pass on his own. He has a much better shot than Howard will ever have, which is huge also. Teams can't just back off of him when he gets the ball away from the basket, because KG can make those shots. Teams always back off of Howard if he gets the ball away from the basket, because he is not going to hurt you there.
     
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    Right now it is most definitely KG. But you never know, later on in his career it might be Dwight Howard.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Delonte4Prez @ Dec 18 2006, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>KG has never had a guard to compliment his skill set. If he had a nice 1 or 2 to carry the load if he falters at all he would have at least a conference championship. Who's KGs best teammate ever? Wally? I dont know KG's supporting cast has always been awful. Not to mention the Magic are in the east, one of the worst conferences in sports history. And with a pretty deep team you should do well among all the terrible teams.</div>Are you kidding bra? The year that the T-Wolves made it to the WCF, they had a great supporting cast. They had Cassell who put up I think like 20 and 6 that year, they had Sprewell who put in over 17, and Wally who had over 12 a game. That is an explosive scoring team.....Yet, they didnt make it to the finals.
     
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    This is no where near close. KG by a mile. He's just as good defensively, probably even better, but offensively is where he really seperates himself. Lets wait about three years, then maybe we can discuss this comparison better.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Dec 23 2006, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Are you kidding bra? The year that the T-Wolves made it to the WCF, they had a great supporting cast. They had Cassell who put up I think like 20 and 6 that year, they had Sprewell who put in over 17, and Wally who had over 12 a game. That is an explosive scoring team.....Yet, they didnt make it to the finals.</div>
    Neither have the Suns. Are you going to start downplaying Steve Nash now? They have the best offensive team in the league. Offense isn't everything.

    You also failed to mention that the year the Wolves did make it to the Conference Finals, they had big injuries. Wally didn't play that many games that year, Cassell was out and playing through injuries, and Spree started to die down as the season neared the end. And yes, they had a pretty good offensive team. Defensively, they were nothing to write home about.
     
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    You can't bring record/supporting cast into this. Dwight is in the east. I could get 4 of my buddies and we could play .500 ball in the east. But yes, KG is the better player. Maybe if we make this topic in 2 years, it'll be a different story.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Dec 23 2006, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Are you kidding bra? The year that the T-Wolves made it to the WCF, they had a great supporting cast. They had Cassell who put up I think like 20 and 6 that year, they had Sprewell who put in over 17, and Wally who had over 12 a game. That is an explosive scoring team.....Yet, they didnt make it to the finals.</div>yeah, they lost to the Lakers who were like unstoppable with malone healthy. And they lost in six games without all nba second team sam cassell.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Dec 23 2006, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Are you kidding bra? The year that the T-Wolves made it to the WCF, they had a great supporting cast. They had Cassell who put up I think like 20 and 6 that year, they had Sprewell who put in over 17, and Wally who had over 12 a game. That is an explosive scoring team.....Yet, they didnt make it to the finals.</div>Cassell was hurt during pretty much the entire WCF.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Dec 25 2006, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yeah, they lost to the Lakers who were like unstoppable with malone healthy. And they lost in six games without all nba second team sam cassell.</div>The Lakers were not unstoppable in 2004 what so ever....They got completley dominated in the Finals by the Detroit Pistons. Karl Malone played in the first 4 games of that series and he played terrible. He played over 38 minutes twice, and in the next two games he played over 20 minutes. He shot a terrible percentage, and in the first two games, he didnt score over 10 points. The lakers were in no way unstoppable that year. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (joemagoo362 @ Jan 3 2007, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Cassell was hurt during pretty much the entire WCF.</div>The Wolves were 1-2 when they had Cassel, and they were 1-2 and when they didnt have him. There was no real difference what so ever....Just like when the Sonics played against the Spurs in the playoffs a couple years ago. They did just as good without Vladimir Radmonivic and Rashard Lewis.
     
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    Whoah, whoah, whoah. Now we're talking about the past. Vladi is somewhere at the bottom of the ocean, currently. Cassell is on the Clippers, and not playing much right now. Let's just talk about now, in relevance. What does KG have over Dwight? Does Dwight have anything over KG?
     

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