Bonds "cleared"

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  1. totus44

    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Asterisk or not, the guy is a HOFer, as are Clemens and Rose. I can see where this is going though, anyone in question doesn't get in until they get to Big Papi, then the tune changes.
     
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    One of the best hitters I've seen but this is not going to help him get into the HOF. Remember Clemens was cleared of all charges also.
     
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    ...Bonds, Clemens, and Rose won't get in any time soon.
     
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    If at all I can see Rose getting in before the other two.
     
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    I don't get it, Bonds more than using PED's lied to a Grand Jury, and has no more right to be on a Baseball Field in any capacity, since Rose is NOT allowed on a Field, less the Commissioner's 1 admission to let Pete stand in on the Team of the Century, during the All Star game, quit some time ago.

    Regardless of what one's stance is on PED's, no one here could perjure themselves, before not only Congress, Grand Jury's and other Court Appearances, or, we'd all be in for Life, behind bars. It's a sad day in Hell, when Money creates a double standard of Justice, for those who have it and those who don't. NTM- with these High Profile Players being household names, is our Legal System only a POS Legal Method to screw over the lesser fortunate's, while yielding to public figures? Bowing to those with plenty of $$$ to pay fines for restitution, in lieu of doing time behind bars....?

    FK 'em all, "One and Done".......Zero Tolerance....!

    When Shoeless Joe becomes a MLB discussion to allow the 2nd best Hitter ever to play the Sport, in lieu of Rose, Clemens, Balco Barry, then we will know MLB is on the right path, and not until then......Hell, I'd not let Rose in simply because of these 30 years of bullshit associated with Pete. NTM- his Memorabilia Show signings, which he hid from the IRS. Assuming the IRS is dumb/stupid is one of the biggest blunders Rose was involved in.....

    As well as is typical with Rose, he failed to show any remorse for his actions, at least for the 1st 20 years of his suspension, one arrogant prick...!
     
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    ...Clemens and Bonds may or may not get in during their lifetimes...and Rose will also eventually be inducted, but posthumously.
     
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    Yes indeed, not until Pete is 6 feet below..........
     
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    Not any more with the exception of Rose
     
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    And Shoeless Joe.
     
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    I just don't think waiting for Rose to die is gonna be the best PR move for MLB. Reconciliation has much better play. Short attention span society just doesn't hold grudges. Just honor the guy for his time as a player, and ignore his time as a mgr., that's what the hall will do anyway.
     
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    ...Rose willingly agreed to a "lifetime ban".
     
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    Yeah well " lifetime" had never been literally applied consistently.
     
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    I remember reading somewhere recently that the new commish has already allowed him to be a part of the activities in Cincinnati for the all star weekend.
     
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    At some point baseball just needs to make a reconciliation with the past. Otherwise they'll keep reliving the sordidness. Not approving or accepting things that were done, just moving on.
     
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    The man is 74 years old, its time he got recognized for what he accomplished ON the field. JMO.
     
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    ...you mean like in Joe Jackson's case?
     
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    How about closer to home, George Steinbrenner? Come on, you know this....
     
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    ...I also disagree with disregarding what Bonds, Clemens, Rose, et al did after their accomplishments or how great they were before their transgressions. I mean, I sure that at one time Bernie Madoff was a legit stockbroker, investment advisor, and financier...but that does not let him off the hook for what he did later on.
     
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    ...huh?
     

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