I got into a discussion about Lamarcus leaving or not and ended up digging into the free agency and S&T rules now. Included are the projected differences between being a max player this summer vs next summer (9 years or less) Free agency rules: A player can sign a 5 year deal with 7.5% annual raises A player signing with a new team or being signed and traded can only sign a 4 year deal with 4.5% annual raises Sign and Trade rules A team can not receive a player in a S&T if it leaves them above the apron ($4mil over luxury tax level) So some examples If Kevin Love were to opt out of his contract this year and leave for the Lakers either as a FA or via S&T the most he could make over a max Contract would be 4 years for $80.85mil. If he chooses to play out the upcoming season he retains the $16.74mil. If he were to then re-sign for a max deal with Cleveland that contract would be worth about $151.6mil. Or about a difference of 2 extra years and $87.5 mill in all. Also using Cleveland, lets say Love doesn't opt out but Lamarcus wants to go to Cleveland and Love wants to come here. Sending Lamarcus to Cleveland in a S&T would leave Cleveland above the Luxury Apron and therefore they wouldn't be able to complete the trade. Back to Lamarcus. Lets say he decides he wants to play for Dallas, regardless of he leaves or is Signed and traded the most he would be able to get this summer is $80.8mil over 4 years. If he were to stay he could get 5 years and about $109.8 that's a difference of $29 mil. Thats a lot of money to walk away from to go back home. If he were to want to take less money to play for a contender then it gets to be a huge discrepancy. Lamarcus unlike Lebron and Wade doesn't have the fat endorsement cash coming in as incentive to be wanting to leave cash on the table.
What if he were to sign a i year deal with a team and wait for when the salary cap takes a huge jump?
If he were to do that, the most he could get elsewhere is about $111.6 over 4 years or $151.6 over 5 if he were to stay.
Can you sign a free agent and immediately trade him for a player that also just signed? Like LA for Love for instance? OKC is close enough to Dallas take a resigned LA and trade him to OKC for Durant.
LMA could run for president, win, sign an illegal $300 mill contract with the Mavs, the pardon himself.
Huge gamble. LeBron basically did this last off season (still making alot) and would not be surprised if he did the same thing again.
I would think for Lamarcus the fact that he's had a couple minor heart issues and a couple hip issues, and seeing Greg,Brandon and now maybe Wes, he's going to want to get paid long term now/
Are you sure about this? EDIT: I see you are right. ALL S&T deals can be for no more than 4 years and at most 4.5% raises.
Agree. Plus I don't think LA likes all of the buzz & media attention that free agency brings. Lebron could probably do it every year and be happy, but it seems to irritate LA. when he's asked about it. I would think LA would want to sign a 5 year deal & move on. But, I wouldn't be surprised if there is an opt out clause, just in case the team takes a step back or shows that it has reached it's ceiling.
Again I ask: Does that 169M scenario involve the Blazers being able to give the most money or it is it a total free-for-all where any team with the money could give the money?
The Blazers can offer 5 years instead of 4, and 7.5% raises instead of 4.5%. Something like that. If I'm LMA, I'm signing a MAX deal with a player option after 1 year. If I want LMA, I sign him to that offer and let the Blazers choose to match.
If Aldridge signed a 2 year deal with Portland and a opt out in the first year, we still have his "bird rights". That means we can over 5 years and a 7.5% raise per season. We can still offer this even being over cap. If the Spurs signed him to a 2 year and he opts out the first year, they can't sign him if they are over cap and can only offer him 4 years because they wouldn't have his full bird rights.
If he signs a contract with 1 year opt out with the Spurs, he gets MAX dollars now, and can sign a new 4 year deal at the new TV contract MAX in a year. 5 years total. If the Spurs don't want to re-sign him after he opts out, anyone else can make it worth is while. If he signs a 5 year contract with the Blazers, it starts at the pre TV deal MAX. I haven't run the numbers, but I suspect he makes out better signing with the Spurs. All this is hypothetical. The very best thing for LMA would be to sign a 5 year MAX deal with opt out after 1st year with the Blazers, then sign a new 5 year deal at post TV deal MAX.
No you are missing the point that states "5 years is only offered to a full bird player", one that has played for a team for 3+ years. So my comment is correct. Portland would still be able to offer 5 years over anyone else, even if he has a opt out after 1 year. That's because he's played with Portland for more than 3+ years. So if it's about money, he still needs to stay in Portland. We can always offer more than anyone else. Also, I agree with the opt out in the first year. He can still do that with Portland and still get a 5 year max after next season.
