There has to be a partial house cleaning in the off-season

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  1. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    No matter what big offensive start they bring here, they basically always suck in the playoffs for us.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    This team needs to get bigger. Too small as it is
     
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    How much would you give to have an Adam Graves on this team?
     
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    True, but no matter who we replace MSL with, the team will be getting bigger.

    I have a good feeling about a Kreider-Stepan-Eberle line.
     
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    Eberle makes 6 million a year. In other words, he's not coming here unless Stepan or Nash is leaving. He's also not a big forward. Sutter is a big center so I would take a smaller forward back in Hornqvist to get him. Sutter is a right handed shot and also allows Stepan who sucks complete ass on draws to finally be moved to wing where he should be.
     
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    Get somebody who can win an friggin faceoff.
     
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    If you let MSL walk, dump Boyle, trade Talbot to get him that's more than enough for Eberle and Stepan's raise. We'll see.
     
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    Right on the money Prod. No playoff type role players who play with grit except for maybe Zuc. Rest of roster just believes in "puck possession", finesse crap preached by coach. You still need those few guys who are always in other teams face to keep other team honest. We have none
     
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    We have a defenseman like that in Hartford but our coach continues to be a dumbass, refuses to develop him while he spends countless months trying to make Glass a player. Incredible.
     
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    At the very least they need to sign some free agents with size
     
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    Kreider should be that guy more consistently. Guys like Miller and Hayes are getting a playoff education. The only guys who really come to play in the playoffs are Brassard and Hags.
     
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    Ha, Glass. Here's a fun stat: Tanner Glass is the only Rangers player who has played in all 9 postseason games and doesnt have a point. Keep throwing him out there AV. He's also dragged down Dom Moore incredibly, who was an important playoff guy last year. Dom Moore is built for the playoffs. The black hole on his left has destroyed his game and made us a 3 line team.
     
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    They could get those players with trades. The two biggest chips I see are Nash and Yandle. Agree, they probably will keep Stepan but he has to be moved to wing because he is just completely incompetent on draws.
     
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    Agree 100%
     
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    I like Miller's game thus far. No idea why he was demoted last night. He's got a little bit of Dubinsky in him and plays with fire. I might be pusing it a little to call Hayes "soft" but the kid is so damn big and I've seen him throw maybe 3 good hits all year. I have no idea if he's going to develop that part of his game. The big body will at least help.

    Hags and Zucc are good playoff guys, but they're too small to physically impose on anybody. Which gets me back to my original point in that Nash is getting the shit kicked out of him every shift and the rest of the smurfs on this team can't do anything to bang back or create some space for him. Again, not an excuse for Nash because a true star fights through that, but this team gives him no help the way it's constructed.
     
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    Glass has played ok in this series. Had sa golden chance last night and bloodied up Gleason but his offense is not existent. Dorsett had a great season in Vancouver... That was a dumb trade off
     
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    Nash is a pussy, there is no doubt about that
     
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    Chris Kreider just might be one of the dumbest guys out there. He has let the league/refs intimidate him away from playing like a beast (at least it appears that way) cause he rarely finishes a forcheck and rarely steps in for a teammate. At times, he manages the puck well using his size and goes to the net but then will try to use finesse which he has none of. Do you think anyone has told him to just skate up and down his wing, bang, and go to the net ??? Not sure- but even with his gifts of size and speed he is just lost out there. I thought he would emerge into a playoff type " in your face" player after his splash onto the scene in playoffs a few years back but he just doesnt show up for every game.
     
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    Size...LOL.

    Kreider has size, Nash has size, Miller has size, Hayes has size. How have those guys performed in the playoffs? CK, JT, KH are young so not getting on them, but they all have size.

    MSL doesn't have size, but played a very key role last season, his issue is age now not size.

    Brass has 1/3 of our playoff goals...he have size?

    Hags is our next best forward...he have size?

    So I don't buy the size thing. I do think the fix of Moore up and Miller down when we cannot score was not nearly enough of a move, and I actually think it was a dumb move to move Miller down. I do think playing Glass kills any O the 4th line may have, but with Zucc out we don't have a great option to sit Glass anyway, plus Glass has gotten chances (cannot finish) and is our only tough guy.

    On D we worried about size? Is that killing us as the Caps have SEVEN goals in 4 games...SEVEN. Not IMO. The top 4 is real good. We kill McD for not being that special talent we expected, but last I checked the Caps aren't scoring much AND OV has done nothing the past two games. McD is off the 1st PP unit and isn't providing O, so that is an issue, but his D has been real solid outside of one bad play last night. McD/G and Staal/Klein is a great top 4. I will go to battle with that top 4 everyday of the week. To me the BY FAR biggest issue on D has been Yandle. Bad D and zero O. Killer.

    I just don't see size as this huge issue. Just my opinion.
     
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    Honestly I don't see many players moving out. Next season they'll enter the playoffs with much of the same roster.... Just please don't sign Justin Williams
     

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