Politics Kentucky police raid and abduct 10 children from parents

Police Abduct 10 Children From Kentucky Family Because Of “Off The Grid” Lifestyle


Michael Snyder
May 9, 2015

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If the government does not like the way that you are raising your kids, they will come in and grab them at any time without giving any warning whatsoever. Of course this is completely and totally unlawful, but it has been happening all over America. The most recent example of this that has made national headlines is particularly egregious. Joe and Nicole Naugler of Breckinridge County, Kentucky just had their 10 children brutally ripped away from them just because the government does not approve of how they are living their lives and how they are educating their young ones.

Let’s be very clear about this – Joe and Nicole had done nothing to violate the law whatsoever. All of their kids were happy, healthy and very intelligent. But because the control freaks running things in Kentucky got wind of their “off the grid lifestyle”, they have now had all of their children unlawfully abducted from them.

A lot of readers also lead “off the grid” lifestyles similar to what the Nauglers had been enjoying. The Nauglers own 26 acres in a remote area of Breckinridge County, and their family has been described as “extremely happy”. But despite never giving them a single warning or a single indication that anything was ever wrong, Kentucky police raided their home on May 6th. The following is how the raid was described on a website dedicated to this case…

“On May 6th, 2015, Breckinridge Co. Sheriff’s officers came to their home, acting on an anonymous tip, and entered their property and home without a warrant and without probable cause. Nicole was at home with the two oldest children, while Joe was away with the others. When the officers left the home, they attempted to block the access road to the family property. Nicole and the two boys got in their car to leave the family property. The got only a short way down the road before the officers pulled Nicole over.”

“During this stop, sheriffs deputies took their two oldest boys from Nicole’s custody, providing her no justification or documentation to support their action. Nicole was able to contact Joe briefly by telephone, but only for a short period of time, because she needed to use her phone to record the events.”

“At that point, Nicole had been taken into custody for disorderly conduct (for not passively allowing the Sheriff to take her boys) and resisting arrest. Even though she is 5 months pregnant, she was slammed belly first into the cop car and bruised and scraped on both arms.”

And people wonder why there is such an uproar about police brutality in this country…

How in the world can a police officer ever justify treating a pregnant woman like that? The police officer that treated Nicole like that should immediately resign. Talk about an utter disgrace. You do not ever treat a pregnant woman like that.

But this is America, where we are turning a little bit more into Nazi Germany every single day.

You can listen to audio of Nicole’s shocking arrest right here.

I think living "off grid" would be awesome! And even if I didn't support this, the government has no rights to take children away from a family like this.

The adult son of 'free range' father Joe Naugler testified against his dad during a custody hearing in Breckenridge County, Kentucky, on Monday.

Naugler and his pregnant wife Nicole were in court trying to regain custody of their ten children after they were removed from their 'off the grid' home by Child Protective Services last week.

Alex Brow, 19, Naugler's estranged son, told the court he was abused as a child by his father.

According to investigators, the family lived in squalor on a plot of land with one shed and two tents.

Brow said he was removed from his dad's custody when he was four-and-a-half years old and had not seen his father until Monday's hearing because he lives out of state, WAVE 3 News reported.

Since the hearing involved juveniles, only family members were allowed in the courtroom, according to WBKO.

After the hearing, Brow said: 'I got all the beatings. I got most of the mental abuse.

'There was a lot of sexual abuse towards me. We had a very dysfunctional relationship.'

The outcome of the hearing wasn't immediately clear as neither the Nauglers nor their attorney Rick Hardin spoke to reporters, but they did update their Blessed Little Homestead family Facebook page later on.

The couple has created a website slamming authorities for simply disagreeing with their approach to parenting.

However, the family services report - posted on Facebook by Nicole - implies the children's liberty was a mere fraction of the reasons they were seized.

It states: 'The allegations were that the family was residing in a tent, mother had given birth in a tent, there is no running water or septic, none of the children were enrolled in school and the father threatened a neighbor with a weapon (asked child to hand him the gun).'

Authorities observed a shed housed dogs, goats and chickens.

The smaller 'makeshift tents' appeared to be accommodation for the parents and children that 'could provide shade but would not provide enough space for the family.'

'Numerous piles of garbage, broken glass and nails were also scattered about the property,' the report stated, and there was a pond 'that had no barrier around it to prevent the children from entering or falling in.'


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Certainly sounds like police brutality. Sounds like the neighbors told them the family had guns and they went straight into adrenaline/testosterone overdrive.

As for the other charges - if the eldest son is telling the truth, the cops did have adequate reason to act.

Thanks Obama.

Er, blame Bush!

So there's more to the story than the government just taking away peoples liberties? No kidding...

so....in a legal world, the cops would show up and say something like "we have a warrant and believe that kids are growing up in an abusive or dangerous way", right? Like something signed by a judge to say that they can enter private property, right? And then take the kids away if they're, indeed, living in squalor?

As opposed to showing up to just take kids away. What's the difference between that and a kidnapper wearing a cop uniform?

Brow said he was removed from his dad's custody when he was four-and-a-half years old and had not seen his father until Monday's hearing because he lives out of state...

14 and 1/2 years since he's seen him.

Any more recent witnesses?

Mmmm.... shanty living.

Abduct or rescue?

I bet they're overtaxing his property in a big way.

That's the American Dream? To have 10 kids and live in what looks very much like a pigsty?

barfo

I bet the human feces are overtaxing his property too. Fucking gross.

barfo said:

That's the American Dream? To have 10 kids and live in what looks very much like a pigsty?

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The American Dream is people have the right to live in a pigsty. The Dream that the citizens feel confident the government will use "due process" or "get warrants" instead of violating your rights because they think they know what's good for you.

I guess you support the government for forcing drug addicts to have abortions? Or better yet, forcing woman to keep their babies?

Just wait 20 years, this will be the new american normal

magnifier661 said:

The American Dream is people have the right to live in a pigsty. The Dream that the citizens feel confident the government will use "due process" or "get warrants" instead of violating your rights because they think they know what's good for you.

I guess you support the government for forcing drug addicts to have abortions? Or better yet, forcing woman to keep their babies?

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Real question:

I don't know much about the cults in the US, namely Amish and the like, or how they provide sanitary child birthing conditions. It occurs to me that this father was preparing to deliver his umpteenth child in a shack or tent with no running water. Are there not some legal provisions to ensure that a child is born in a safe and sanitary manner? Can you just raise a troop of wildlings like it's the 1800's?

I realize kids are born in taxicabs and elevators and during storms and whatnot but I presume these events are followed up by trips to a medical professional.

Side note: living off the grid is fine if you have the money to set yourself up properly. Sounds like this family's setup was akin to a hobo/sex offender tent city.

speeds said:

Real question:

I don't know much about the cults in the US, namely Amish and the like, or how they provide sanitary child birthing conditions. It occurs to me that this father was preparing to deliver his umpteenth child in a shack or tent with no running water. Are there not some legal provisions to ensure that a child is born in a safe and sanitary manner? Can you just raise a troop of wildlings like it's the 1800's?

Side note: living off the grid is fine if you have the money to set yourself up properly. Sounds like this family's setup was akin to a hobo/sex offender tent city.

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The Amish are not a cult.

SlyPokerDog said:

The Amish are not a cult.

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Cultish?

speeds said:

Cultish?

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I would say not even close.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish

speeds said:

Real question:

I don't know much about the cults in the US, namely Amish and the like, or how they provide sanitary child birthing conditions. It occurs to me that this father was preparing to deliver his umpteenth child in a shack or tent with no running water. Are there not some legal provisions to ensure that a child is born in a safe and sanitary manner? Can you just raise a troop of wildlings like it's the 1800's?

I realize kids are born in taxicabs and elevators and during storms and whatnot but I presume these events are followed up by trips to a medical professional.

Side note: living off the grid is fine if you have the money to set yourself up properly. Sounds like this family's setup was akin to a hobo/sex offender tent city.

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Fine... But you get a warrant. They can't go in there and just take them away without due process.

This family had its day in court and the judges heard the evidence and ruled against the family. I'd hope the courts would temper overzealous family services practices.

http://www.sheknows.com/parenting/articles/961991/are-sunburns-child-abuse

In many cases, they are absurd, though. Mags' choice of example was probably not a good one.

speeds said:

Cultish?

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This is a pretty good explanation to your question,

magnifier661 said:

Fine... But you get a warrant. They can't go in there and just take them away without due process.

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I can't comment on the legality of the situation especially since the source article is agenda driven.

SlyPokerDog said:

This is a pretty good explanation to your question,

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Thanks. I live close by to a lot of Hudderites and hoo-boy a lot of the stuff they do makes them seem like one. I suppose every sect is a little different.

magnifier661 said:

The American Dream is people have the right to live in a pigsty. The Dream that the citizens feel confident the government will use "due process" or "get warrants" instead of violating your rights because they think they know what's good for you.

I guess you support the government for forcing drug addicts to have abortions? Or better yet, forcing woman to keep their babies?

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People do have the right to live in a pigsty, absolutely, but if the living conditions are unhealthy then you lose the right to have kids. Your children don't have the right to choose where they live until they're old enough to move out. Mags, if your ex wife had your kid living in that shack, would you allow it to continue to happen? I don't know if the police followed due process or not, but that "house" does not look fit for children.

Christian WWW sites behind the family and making all the noise.

But...

https://homeschoolersanonymous.word...le-naugler-the-off-grid-homeschooling-family/

Please know that there is so much more to know about the Nauglers than meets the eye in this case: allegations of theft, illegal transportation, fleeing the law, threatening neighbors with death, child neglect, and more.Homeschoolers and unschoolers that actually know the family are cautioning people that this family is troubled. HA blog partner Kathryn Brightbill is working on a summary of the situation that we will crosspost and share once it is complete. (It is complete! Read it here.) In the mean time, please exercise caution (and encourage your friends on social media to do so as well) before promoting their story and/or giving them money.

http://kathrynbrightbill.com/post/118481565656/here-are-7-surprising-things-you-need-to-know

Natebishop3 said:

People do have the right to live in a pigsty, absolutely, but if the living conditions are unhealthy then you lose the right to have kids. Your children don't have the right to choose where they live until they're old enough to move out. Mags, if your ex wife had your kid living in that shack, would you allow it to continue to happen? I don't know if the police followed due process or not, but that "house" does not look fit for children.

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This has nothing to do with what I believe is right or wrong. Did this family have their rights violated?

That looks like a typical home in Bonanza or Chiloquin Oregon.

magnifier661 said:

This has nothing to do with what I believe is right or wrong. Did this family have their rights violated?

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The story is so convoluted with bullshit from both sides that I honestly don't know.

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The story is so convoluted with bullshit from both sides that I honestly don't know.

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As I already said... I support :"off-grid living", but I would be against someone living like a slob. I'm also against forcing a drug addict to have an abortion because they are hooked on drugs, even though the child may be born with serious health conditions.

What I would like to see is "due process". Was this family's rights violated? If yes, then fuck the government. If no, then fuck the family!

magnifier661 said:

As I already said... I support :"off-grid living", but I would be against someone living like a slob. I'm also against forcing a drug addict to have an abortion because they are hooked on drugs, even though the child may be born with serious health conditions.

What I would like to see is "due process". Was this family's rights violated? If yes, then fuck the government. If no, then fuck the family!

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But in this case the parents are "forcing" their kids to live in squalor. I support off the grid living as well, but if you already have kids then it has to be done in a healthy and safe environment. If it was just some dude, living out on his own, then go right ahead. I couldn't care less.

And yes, like I said, I don't know the full details. It seems like the family has one story, and the cops have another. I don't know what really happened.