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  1. Rick2583

    Rick2583 Chairman of the board

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    Just for some shits & giggles, 2015 numbers


    Francisco Cervelli (Pirates) - 27 games 0 / 8 / 284 with a .340 OBP

    Robinson Cano (Mariners) - 35 games 1 / 11 / 268 with a .309 OBP

    Curtis Granderson (Mets) - 36 games 3 / 10 / 235 with a .357 OBP

    Russell Martin (Blue Jays) - 32 games 7 / 19 / 278 with a .375 OBP

    Yangeruis Solarte (Padres) - 35 games 2 / 20 / 286 with a .336 OBP

    Martin Prado (Marlins) - 35 games 2 / 15 / 281 with a .322 OBP
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    Phil Hughes (Twins) 3-4 with a 4.76 ERA

    David Robertson (White sox) 3-0 with a 1.20 ERA 7 saves & 27Ks in 15 IP

    David Phelps (Marlins) 2-0 with a 2.68 ERA

    Shawn Kelley (Padres) 0-2 with a 9.35 ERA

    Shane Greene (Tigers) 4-2 with a 4.21 ERA
     
  2. totus44

    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Cashman's keen eye for talent on grand display there. I think the plan was how bad of a gm does he have to be to get fired....
     
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    I miss Cisco, Prado, Solo, and Greene!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Hammerojustice Chief Caveman, Keeper of Thor's Hammer

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    The only one who surprises me is Martin
     
  5. Rick2583

    Rick2583 Chairman of the board

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    I've also got to go with Cano, I knew his power numbers would suffer a little but I didn't think this much.
     
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    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Why is that?
     
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    Hammerojustice Chief Caveman, Keeper of Thor's Hammer

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    7 HR & almost a .280 BA...???
     
  8. blgridesagain

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    Just to expand it a bit:
    Currently ✴

    Prado - Headley
    Prado has a .689 OPS with 2 HRs and 15 RBI
    Headley has a .661 OPS with 5 HRs and 17 RBI
    Headley's defensive Range Factor stats (R/F), are considerably better at 3b than Prado.

    J.R. Murphy currently has a .242 career BA and has thrown out 30% of att/SB.
    Not such a bad total package for a YOUNG catcher still learning the ropes.
    The "Cisco kid" is at 20%.

    Phelps? Nice guy, has VERY rarely (if any) pitched 7 innings in any of his starts and he has had trouble staying healthy.....he's gone on these 2 month disappearing injury problems the past two seasons.

    Good guy, hope he does well...but he just didn't show much in a few years with the Yanks.
    I doubt if Cashman was gritting his teeth when he included him in a trade. Lol

    Drob- excellent pitcher but Miller and Betances have been more dominant last year and this year.

    And they're both Younger and less expensive....with Yanks gaining a pick after the 1st round is completed in the Miller deal.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Old Jimmy Gilmer Tune, "I've Daisy Petal Pickin',
     
  11. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...yup, and I love people who, in order to support their "plan", incessantly seek out one sided stats (and some of them are inaccurate) without telling the other side of the equation or the whole story..
     
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    Sorry if I stated any "inaccuracies" that you have noticed , I gladly welcome any enlightenment ....but not so much biased personal opinions.

    I never said Prado isn't a good player, in fact I think he's a fine player.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...lol...your opinions are not "biased"?...seriously? ...hypocritical much?

    ...Prado is also much more versatile because he also plays multiple positions on the field...and he's also not locked into a idiotic contract...but you left that part out, didn't you?...why is that? ...n/m, you don't have to answer, it's quite obvious as to why.

    ...and you also know good and well there were "inaccuracies" (in your favor of course)....hint take a look at your catcher comparisons again.



    ...now get back to your myopic cherry picking...and shine my shoes, damnit.
     
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    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Cashman and his grand plan....

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  16. Rick2583

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    blg, first off Ron (59) is not forcing me to say this, nor has he hypnotized me or threatened me with bodily harm if I don't agree with him BUT........your comparison of Headley to Prado is ridiculous. Not just for the reasons Ron gave you but also (although still not great) Prado's .318 OBP is a lot better then Headley's lowly .279. And the main thing is the obvious, Prado is batting fifty (50) points higher then Headley (278-228).
     
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    Prado is earning 11 mil per year for two more seasons.
    Yes,he's a versatile player but who plays 3b when he's being "versatile"?
    Young is the Yankees' current 4th outfielder and has done well AND is a better defensive outfielder.

    Pirela is going to get an opportunity to play 2b and Refsnyder could be here if not this year, than next year.....

    Shortstop? Please don't get and sell me Prado being a steady everyday SS....he's played a grand total of 16 games at SS in his career.

    Yanks signed Drew for one year at 5 mil to play 2b/SS hoping he can rebound with decent numbers.....maybe,probably not....but he's gone after this year unless he makes a dramatic turnaround. Yeah, you can say the Yanks made a mistake signing him but guess what? Whether you like it or not, the Yanks are still in first place WITHOUT Prado.
    Sorry to hurt your feelings. Lmao

    Now what about Murphy? Got a problem with the Yanks breaking in a young catcher as opposed to Cervelli who has a solid history of getting injured and missing a lot of time.

    And Murphy DOES throw out att/sb at a significantly better rate than Cervelli, and his current .242 BA is respectable for a young backup catcher who at least has a chance to get better.


    So, what's your problem, did I hurt your bossom buddy Prado's feelings? lol


    Funny guy.
     
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    Prado has a .689 OPS with 2 HRs and 15 RBI
    Headley has a .661 OPS with 5 HRs and 17 RBI
    Headley's defensive Range Factor stats (R/F), are considerably better at 3b than Prado. - and that is his position with the Marlins.....so much for "versatility".

    There's more to being a 3bman than having a higher BA.
    Run production and defense and as of now, Headley is better and we'll eventually find out where their final OPS stands.
     
  19. Rick2583

    Rick2583 Chairman of the board

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    HOLY SHIT! stop the presses Headley has to more f'king RBI. Can't believe you even found that worth mentioning. Then again.....................
     
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    Hey if we're cherry pickng stats because there is more to a 3B than AVG.....how about errors? RF means nothing if you can't make a play.
     

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