OT Clips worried DJ could bolt

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Who IS behind Jordan? They never played Hawes, did they?
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    so based on your logic, since he gets 15 rebounds a game he must only care about padding stats and must never box out. That's silly
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Rasta, the Blazers are a better rebounding team because everyone else on the team is better at rebounding than the Clips...
     
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    Fun fact, Leonard has a better TRB% than RoLo.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Dames, Nic, and LA are all good rebounders for their position.. Kaman would get 10+ a game if he started. CJ isn't bad..

    Clippers have a bunch of average to below average reboundes... But I guess every time they give up an offensive rebound its due to the one dude that can actually rebound? Makes no sense.
     
  6. Rastapopoulos

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    Yes, that is obviously what I'm saying.
     
  7. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Let me repeat:



    Doesn't that render all of this discussion moot?
     
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    What people also don't seem to get is that this Hack-A-Jordan is ONLY A LIABILITY if you do not have a competent back-up center. That is where Doc shit the bed. Hawes was benched for much of the season because his play was horrid, and when the HAJ was used in the playoffs he was forced to play him. In reality, this only becomes a problem in the playoffs, and its only a problem if you dont have someone behind him. If the Blazers are up 15 on the Clips in the playoffs, and had Jordan, you just don't play him from whenever they start fouling until the 2:00 minute mark, Meyers is more than competent to handle a 4-6 minute stretch. During the regular season it doesn't even matter. The free throws and this HAJ thing has been blown WAYYYYYY out of proportion because it's something for ESPN to talk about and bring up every 10 minutes. That is why it will be talked about, but not changed this summer. It's part of the game.

    If you want to look at advanced stats, what about Lillard and his competence with the PnR? He is one of the better PnR PG's in the league...can you imagine how deadly that becomes if he has the option to run it with either LA (a top shooting big man) or Jordan (an absolute beast going to the hoop)? Throw in Wesley, CJ, Batum, or whatever shooters we have around them? Our offense becomes even deadlier, we lose very little defensively from RoLo to Jordan, and rebounding is at worst even (depending on what side of the advanced metrics you take).

    @Rastapopoulos is DeAndre a 5 year/120M player? No. But not very many people are, and with the cap going up and the NBA continuing to grow, the cap and its restraints are going to be thrown out the window very quickly these next couple years. With the potential legalization of sports betting on these major sports coming on the horizon, that is expected to bring potentially another $10M to the cap figures from what I've seen thrown around. Look at what Olshey said this offseason...money isn't an issue. If DeAndre wants a max offer to come here, that is what he will get and I don't think Paul will have ANY qualms about giving it to him.
     
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    Nope. He is unrestricted.
     
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    LAC gets to offer a bigger max contract to him than us (or any other team for that matter) as far as I can tell.
     
  11. Rastapopoulos

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    So... some of you people would actually be happy to see the Blazers offer DeAndre Jordan a max contract?

    Wow.

    You do realize that this would almost certainly only be possible if we lost Aldridge, right?

    But even if not... wow. The salary cap better double, is all I'm saying.
     
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  12. Rastapopoulos

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    So you're saying he's only a liability if he's actually on the court? Gotcha. So the safest way to avoid him being a liability is not to acquire him in the first place.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    He does have that vibe about him.

    As for Jordan (since he's the subject of the thread), I wouldn't mind him being on the team but I think the cost of getting him (in addition to my attempts to live in the real world) makes it difficult to see it.
     
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    Re: Chris Paul. Barkley once said of Isiah Thomas that "he would cut your nuts off to win". I think Paul's the same way. Apparently the friction with Jordan was because Paul got on Jordan for not working harder to improve his free throwing. Wow, what an asshole.

    It's also true that LeBron James listed his three best friends in the league (none on his team, by the way) and one of them was Paul. But then, they've never been on the same team, I guess.

    Finally: Doc successfully managed Rajon "Aspie" Rondo for what, 5? 6? seasons. NOBODY grates on his teammates, or has more contempt for shortcomings of others than Rondo. Doc can handle this.
     
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    Yeah; is DeAndre on a max deal worth more to us than all of Lopez, Wes, Afflalo, and Kaman? I don't know about that. Losing Wes would be real hard; we'd have to start Crabbe or CJ or whoever we can sign for the room exception. Just wish there was a way we could still keep Wes on a one year deal then give him a big payday next summer. But even if we have to let Wes walk I would like that starting lineup more. But once again we'd have major Blazer bench trouble. It might be a worse bench then the one that failed the Clippers this season.

    DeAndre
    Aldridge Meyers
    Batum
    CJ
    Dame

    Is a very damn exciting group of 6 players though. Neil get that done but figure out a magical way to keep Wes too.

    Maybe the hope would be we agree to the max deal with DeAndre; but are able to ultimately work out a sign and trade with the Clippers so they get Lopez. That is the only way they could acquire a competent center since if DeAndre leaves they still have no cap room. Give them whoever we draft and Allan Crabbe. If it was a sign and trade we could keep Wes, Afflalo, Kaman.

    DeAndre Kaman
    Aldridge Meyers
    Batum
    Wes AAA
    Dame CJ

    That group would be amazing!
     
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    No mention of woj saying deandre wants 5 years 100 million?

    No thanks. So many posters would turn on this dude after the first season because he's making so much
     
  18. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You're not giving the fans enough credit here. There are some who would turn on him during the RUMORS of him signing here.
     
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    Well Paul will do anything for a championship.
     
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    First, he can only get $80 million unless he stays with the Clippers.

    Secondly, is the job of Blazer management to worry about what some fans will complain about or the performance on the court?

    DeAndre is one of the top players in the league at his position; far better than Lopez. If you have a chance to get a player like that you do it. With the cap and luxury tax increasing the Blazers will still have salary space to keep everyone on the roster.
     

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