Federal appeals court deals blow to President Obama’s amnesty

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    There was no "legal" or "illegal" migration here for thousands of years. It's only a racist recent thing to build fences to keep people out.
     
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    Law of Nations says immigration should be unhindered. Emigration in history has been sacred.

    Sacred, a word you might like.
     
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    Very Good Denny. Sounds about right hey! There is a right until it become unlawful. We did indeed take much of the Law of Nation into account in creating this Nation.
    I think Madison and did take this subject in from the law of Nation in giving the power to Congress to control Naturalization (legal immigration) Madison's copy of the Law of
    Nations is on display in the Smithsonian and very interesting it is, with Madison's hand marked notes in the margins of the book.

    But of course, not all of it became law, it is rather dumb to think that immigration can continue into a Nation unabated for all time. More natural to expect that it will become unlawful
    at some point, as Congress has done.
     
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    Yeah, the way it was is just that, was. During my life time the population of the Earth has tripled. It would triple again in half the time if we stayed the course, but that is not possible,
    so things will now change.
     
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    Invading Mexico would end this illegal immigration problem. I'd rather invade Canada but Mexico would be a huge upgrade over Iraq and Afghanistan. We should only invade countries that the average citizen wants to visit.
     
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    I second the idea. Going fishing in Mexico is great. But talk about some cops that need to be straighten out! Yeah got a watch your ass there, err at least the gringos do.
     
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    Sure there was Denny. It was legal! It takes overt action to make it illegal as Congress as done. You best rethink your position, your out of water. You haven't got room for any flavor.
     
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    I'm not worried about the lack of water. Nor am I worried about someone with not-white skin somehow harming me.

    This country was built on unfettered immigration
     
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    Pure fiction. What you support is the dissolution of 200 years of advancement in worker's civil rights. What you don't support is the existence of countries or governments.

    But this is our country, and we are a self-governed society. Continually pretending that our laws don't exist or that the world's population was born with an inherent right to invade and pillage our country "just because" is pathetic and boringly inane.

    No employer who employs illegal aliens can threaten to call INS as a form of coercion against illegal aliens. He or she would be ridiculed for such an empty threat. Any illegal who works one hour for sub-minimum wage could actually blackmail the employer for using the threat.

    The penalties for employing illegals and/or paying ANYONE less than minimum wage are far greater than any non-enforced illegal immigration law .
     
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    You are completely ignorant of American history, particularly how it was "built".
     
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    I'm not an anarchist.

    You can pretend what I "believe" all you want. It doesn't make it right.

    But you obviously believe there are tens of millions of people here pillaging or something. I see it occasionally during riots, but those look like "real americans" (HA HA) to me.

    I'm the one that favors giving these people the right to work at wages per our laws or that are even better as negotiated. You want to take it away from them.

    You're not a real american. You're a canadian. You turned your back on your people. Blah blah.
     
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    Oh BS. Read the history, it has been controlled for many many years. My dad came through Ellis Island, very tightly controlled. Many were stamped return to sender.
     
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    Throwing around the word "ignorant" now?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_immigration_to_the_United_States

    Middle colonies[edit]
    Maryland, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Delaware formed the middle colonies. Pennsylvania was settled byQuakers from Britain, followed by Ulster Scots (Northern Ireland) on the frontier and numerous German Protestant sects, including the German Palatines. The earlier colony of New Sweden had small settlements on the lower Delaware River, with immigrants of Swedes and Finns. These colonies were absorbed by 1676.[8]

    The middle colonies' settlements were scattered west of New York City (established 1626; taken over by the English in 1664) and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (established 1682). The Dutch-started colony of New York had the most eclectic collection of residents from many different nations and prospered as a major trading and commercial center after about 1700. The Pennsylvania colonial center was dominated by the Quakers for decades after they emigrated, mainly from the North Midlands of England, from about 1680 to 1725. The main commercial center of Philadelphia was run mostly by prosperous Quakers, supplemented by many small farming and trading communities with a strong German contingent located in several small towns in the Delaware River valley.[9]

    Starting in about 1680, when Pennsylvania was founded, many more settlers arrived in the middle colonies. Many Protestant sects were encouraged to settle there by freedom of religion and good, cheap land. Their point of origin was about 60% British and 33% German. By 1780, in New York, about 27% of the population were descendants of Dutch settlers, about 6% were black and the rest were mostly English with a wide mixture of other Europeans. New Jersey and Delaware had a majority of British with 7-11% German-descended colonists, about 6% black population, and a small contingent of Swedish descendants of New Sweden. Nearly all were at least third-generation natives.
     
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    There was no indoor plumbing for thousands of years. It's only a racist thing to not shit on the ground.
     
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    http://sydaby.eget.net/swe/ellis_island.htm

    Though relatively few immigrants who landed at Ellis Island were denied entry, the 2% that were excluded often equaled over a thousand people a month during peak immigration years.
     
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    Brilliant?

    I don't get it.
     
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    Ha! Sound like a DNC talking point! Utterly mindless.
     
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    Who was here before immigration began in the 1600s? Not people who made this country.

    No talking point, just obvious truth.
     
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    No more relevant than any other historical era that occurred before The United States of America came to be. Immigration has been tightly regulated for over 200 years now.

    So, you think you would have liked New Britain. The people living in it found it so repressive that they rebelled and formed The United States of America.

    I get that you'd like to live like they did back in the medieval ages (as long as you were born into the right family) but most people like the advancements we've made by forming a government that outlaws slavery and offers minimum protection at least against slavery and abuse.
     

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