Federal appeals court deals blow to President Obama’s amnesty

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  1. MarAzul

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    The truth is nobody was here before immigration began.
     
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    The first immigration law was RACIST and in 1882. 100 years after the nation was founded.

    See the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...ation_and_naturalization_in_the_United_States

    After the immigration of 123,000 Chinese in the 1870s, who joined the 105,000 who had immigrated between 1850 and 1870, Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882 which targeted a single ethnic group by specifically limiting further Chinese immigration. Chinese had immigrated to the Western United States as a result of unsettled conditions in China, the availability of jobs working on railroads, and the Gold Rush that was going on at that time in California. The xenophobic "Yellow Peril" expression became popular to justify racism against Asians.

    The act excluded Chinese laborers from immigrating to the United States for ten years and was the first immigration law passed by Congress.
     
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    So the nation was built on immigration.

    The nations prior to ours and ours.
     
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    And all good things come to and end.
     
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    It came to an end in 1882.
     
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    So it's agreed, we invade Canada and Mexico!
     
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    Well, we should start by building a wall across the Canadian border, too.
     
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    Nah, if we're going to build a wall it should be between Oregon and California.
     
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    Immigration.
     
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    So, if you don't agree with the court shouldn't you want the court abolished? If you think the right to move across borders freely trumps our laws, why have the court?
     
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    We have enough Californians here.
     
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    Ha! There are 50 homes in my neighborhood, about half from California, about a third from all over the place, South Africa, Kenya, Germany, England, Denmark, Korea and one lady from Japan.
    I can only think of two other families from Oregon other than my wife and I.
     
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    No, I don't want the court abolished. The court is the normal appeals court, not some special court related to immigration laws.

    It will end up at the Supreme Court, just not before the next president takes office.

    For all republicans' bashing of Obama, "illegal" immigration is at its lowest in 20 years and about 1M fewer immigrants are still here.
     
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    There are more jobs in Mexico. I am not speaking of a special immigration court.

    We have laws.
    We have elected officials elected to make new laws and enforce current laws.
    We have a system of government that dictates how laws are determined and if they have been written properly.

    If you say that this issue is outside of our laws then why should anyone follow any law they disagree with?

    I could pretty much take anything I want from 95 percent of our population through force, I don't refrain from that because my instincts tell me not to. I don't do it because it is illegal. Why should others get to do whatever they want?
     
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    It appears the people of Baltimore are in the process of seeing how they like the system where anything goes.
     
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    We have lots of laws that are bullshit that aren't enforced. This one is no more important than those that aren't enforced.

    If you ever drive 56 in a 55 MPH zone, you're breaking the law. The cops should pull everyone doing 56 over and ticket them, right? They're breaking the law!

    (I don't think so)
     
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    And the median income in Mexico is $4500/year. That means half the people make more than that, and half make less.

    Plenty of jobs. Good paying ones, right?
     
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    LOL.

    Oregon has roughly 90,000 unemployed job seekers, while roughly 120,000 illegal aliens are currently employed in Oregon.

    The US has roughly 8 million unemployed jobseekers, while roughly 10 million illegal aliens are currently employed in the US.

    http://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-aliens-taking-u-s-jobs
     
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    There are 34,000+ jobs in Oregon listed on Indeed.com alone.

    I see you're complaining about the brown skinned folks having jobs that the white skinned ones should take instead, right?
     
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    When you figure the cost of living in Mexico is a tiny fraction of living in the US, so cheap that Americans retire there in large numbers, yes.
     
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