Official off-season thread

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  1. strudwickisthebest

    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    AV is a good coach. It comes down to the players performing
     
  2. NYR2009

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    It is on AV for keep playing him. Move him to 4th line and bring Moore up to 3rd with Hayes and Hags. Moore helped Hayes. Let MLS play with Glass and Sheppard. 4th line sucked anyway.
     
  3. chuckd3534

    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    I agree strud.

    Man I feel empty today. Finally watched a little of the post game show, refused to last night, and those guys were so down on TV, and I get it. They were kind of beside themselves that we let game 5 happen again, and again didn't test Bishop at all really. Said many times how we don't have many Rangers highlights or even close calls. That is sad.

    I feel empty today and I am sure I will for a few weeks at least. Really sucks that this could have been the year. Now you wonder will we ever see another cup in our lives. 94 was the greatest sports moment of my life, and I wonder if I will see it again...
     
  4. chuckd3534

    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, move Moore up. Mr. -7 (2nd worst on the team after Staal's -8) with 1 goal in the playoffs, that's the answer. Mr. I was on for both TB goals last night. Just stop 2009...please.
     
  5. chuckd3534

    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    I have a big issue with AV keeping MSL on the PP. I had a big issue with AV keeping MSL on the 1st line, until he finally made the switch to move Miller up and MSL down. I have no issue with keeping MSL on the 3rd line given the choices he had. If anyone moved up I would have tried Sheppard, but that was never going to happen.
     
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    I see a HUGE difference between Miller/Kreider and MIlrath. First almost every fan was begging them to play JT/CK. Second we all knew those guys had clear NHL skills (especially CK). McIlrath cannot skate at an NHL level. Many people have said that. Strud said it after being at the game the other night. I really don't see much similar between CK/JT and McIlrath.
     
  7. Disturbed

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    Your top players have to perform to win a cup. You can't move role players up to top 6 roles and expect production.

    If we had the St Louis of 2 years ago we are prob talking about the Finals matchup
     
  8. chuckd3534

    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    All you can do is laugh when you see 2009, who gave up on the team 125 times this season now saying it is on AV and ONLY AV...that is funny sh*t.

    AV has been here two seasons and we went to the SCF and ECF...yes the man must be fired right now 2009...you are a funny dude.
     
  9. chuckd3534

    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    No, we should have moved Dom Moore up, that would solve all the issues.

    Outside of MSL on the PP I don't get on AV. I posted it earlier today, go look at the forwards # in the playoffs, they couldn't score. On and on 1, 2, 3 goals. Hayes and Hags nothing after Pitt. Moore 1 goal. MSL 1 goal. On and on. Boyle # 5 and Yandle # 4 scorers in the playoffs, says a lot.

    That is not on AV.

    Oh and side note on McIlrath...we lost game 5 and game 7 both 2-0...I think O was the issue not D, so how is pulling our # 5 playoff scorer out in favor of McIlrath going to solve that. Funny stuff today.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    The following is a list of the Rangers restricted free agents this summer and the price range that The Hockey News offseason preview thinks they will fall into:
     
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    They left Fast off, but he should be back for sure. Also think Miller will be around 2 not 3. And Step 5 to 6 seems fair.

    But if Hags gets close to 4 I will go get him now and take him to the airport so he can fly to his next team. Anything more than 3 +/- and no shot I bring Hags back. And even at 3 I think about it long and hard. Rather have MSL at 1.5-1.7 than Hags at 3 mill.
     
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    Hmmmm. Really like Hags speed but he was pretty invisible after the OT winner vs Pitt.
     
  13. Stepupstepan

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    No way I am giving Hags that kind of money they are predicting. Stepan, I can see Sather giving him 5.5 tops. J.T is not getting close to what they are predicting.
     
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    Invisible...ZERO goals after the game 5 winner against Pitt. I give him no more than 3 mill per...tops. He wants more we need to let him walk.

    Step in the 5's is very fair.

    And Miller I think will be around 1.8-2 mill per +/-. He should be an easy 15 goal guy next season, and maybe a few more. His cap hit was a little over 1 mill this season, so I see a little raise to 1.8-2 or so, and that is fair on his next deal.
     
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    I think Hags will take 3 million two year contract. He is too close with Zucc...
    J.T. still has something to prove. Earn it next season by getting at least 40 points.
     
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    Hagelin will probably go to arb.
     
  17. kreidertime

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    Teams consistently overpay for players like Hagelin. I'd keep him for the right price. However, you might get a 20-30 first and a good prospect for him. Hagelin is well thought of around the league.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    We all do Chuck, the season ended too early.. This was their year with all that resiliency and the OT winners... Very disappointing. Personally I don't care what this team does in the offseason because nothing ever is enough
     
  19. chuckd3534

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    I doubt you can get that for him considering he is a RFA and can sign anywhere if he wants, but I agree on the overall point dump. We cannot overpay for Hags, and I like him. He is a nice 17 goal and 35 point guy, but 3 mill is the max we can afford to pay him. If he wants more then no way would I keep him. Hags will be very interesting this summer. Wonder how it will play out with him.

    Miller I can see 1.7-2 mill on a deal depending on the length. I think he can score 16 or so goals and 30-35 or so points next season, and play a more physical type of game. Well worth the cap hit.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    If you don't care what they do in the off-seas0n, you're a moron. This off-season is huge. To me, they are a team stuck in the middle of being a skilled team and a physical team. They need to commit to one and go in that direction.
     

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