<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KCX @ Dec 19 2006, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>so how will AI affect Carmelo? vice-versa</div>AI will affect carmelo by carmelo not having to take every shot for them. Also this gives the nuggets a mentor for melo. I am guaranteeing that this works for the nuggets! Right it down! Ballahollic I will also add I am now on your side and am a nugget fan!I am also guaranteeing that Oden stays atleast 3 years in college. I live in ohio and he told the greatest recruiting college basketball coach ever(thad baby) that he wants to stay for all four years of college and Dequan Cook isnt going anywhere neither!
God my friends have been rubbing this on my face all day. Now they're both Nuggets fan(one because of carmelo, the other because of iverson) and I'm all alone with the McGrady-less Rockets. I can't wait to see if these two superstars can coexist and succeed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Ballahollic I will also add I am now on your side and am a nugget fan!</div>Jump on the bandwagon, As long as you post in the Nuggets section. I'm down with it :dribble: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I have a question: Who takes the last shot now? How about in 2 years if they're still together?</div>Carmelo will still take the last shot, He has always been more clutch than Iverson.
I agree with that statement the last shot goes to melo. Plus now it will be like a double threat if they are doublin melo then give the ball 2 AI for the last shot!
I heard that Miami offered Udonis Haslem, Jason Williams, Dorrel Wright, and draft picks.If you ask me that offer sounds better than the Denver one.Im hoping that it was because Denver is a wester team that AI got sent there; otherwise, Billy King is a moron!
Well Denver is going to be something big in the West now - they're gonna be a tough team to beat. I didnt really like the idea of AI to Denver - but I guess it's not too bad now. AI with KG would've been much better in my opinion. They're two players who share the most.They both are All Stars - Both have no Championship, both are getting older, both have carried their teams, and both are sick and tired of losing.Plus AI would look much better in a Timberwolves jersey.
Didn't read the whole thread... but I told you guys he would go to Denver. Too bad we have to wait another 14 games to see Melo and AI play together.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ Dec 19 2006, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>you know what I meant. I'm not comparing them in a sense of winning and losing. I'm comparing them in that both teams will have too many scorers. carmelo averages over 30 a game, iverson averages over 30 a game, smith 17 a game. are you telling me that can work? forget what I said about the knicks. tell me how this can work.</div>there's a difference. Carmelo Anthony and Allen Iverson (kind of) are pure scorers, not volume scorers. They don't need the ball for 10 seconds to create for themselves, they can score within the flow of an offense. Guys like Stephon, Steve Francis just do what they want when they have the ball. Iverson, Smith, and Carmelo atleast partly buy into a team concept.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Dec 20 2006, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Didn't read the whole thread... but I told you guys he would go to Denver. Too bad we have to wait another 14 games to see Melo and AI play together.</div>How you feeling about your new players Bigmo?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clangus @ Dec 19 2006, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How you feeling about your new players Bigmo?</div>More lottery balls!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinoy Balla @ Dec 20 2006, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Props to K"5 from WestCoastRemix</div>Nice! :winkglasses:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 19 2006, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Then why the hell would you go ahead and make a stupid comment like that. His defense is improving every day, and he is just a terrific offensive player, and future 20 ppg guy for us. He is also good going to the basket, and he has nigty offensive scoring moves. As a rookie, he's doing better than Nowitzki did so why would you judge him as "not" the future for us at center?</div>Stop bitching. He is a soft player.....if you dont want to admit that you, you are a homer and oblivious. He is a 7 footer and he is averaging just over 3 rebounds a game. That is absolutley terrible....And for you to say he is a terriffic offensive player. And for you to call his offensive game terriffic is complete bullsh**. He is a center and he is shooting under 43 percent. That is awful if you didnt realize....You can say that he shoots outside jumpshots and that is why his percentage isnt as high, but all that proves is that he settles for outside shots because he isnt strong or good enough in the blocks. That isnt a good sign to me. So let me gather what I have said so far....doesn't like playing inside because he is better on the perimeter, terrible rebounder, and he averages around 3 fouls a game in 20 minutes because he cant body up to his defender and play defense without fouling. And I would bet my left nut that if the Raps had the #1 pick, they would pick Oden.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Dec 20 2006, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Stop bitching. He is a soft player.....if you dont want to admit that you, you are a homer and oblivious. He is a 7 footer and he is averaging just over 3 rebounds a game. That is absolutley terrible....And for you to say he is a terriffic offensive player. And for you to call his offensive game terriffic is complete bullsh**. He is a center and he is shooting under 43 percent. That is awful if you didnt realize....You can say that he shoots outside jumpshots and that is why his percentage isnt as high, but all that proves is that he settles for outside shots because he isnt strong or good enough in the blocks. That isnt a good sign to me. So let me gather what I have said so far....doesn't like playing inside because he is better on the perimeter, terrible rebounder, and he averages around 3 fouls a game in 20 minutes because he cant body up to his defender and play defense without fouling. And I would bet my left nut that if the Raps had the #1 pick, they would pick Oden.</div>Yeah, so what? What 20 year old rookie straight out of Europe isn't somewhat soft? He will develop a post game, and if you think his 6 blocks was "soft", then w/e. Okay, same thing. Dirk only averaged 3 boards a game when he was a rookie, now he's averaging close to 10. Andrea has a ton of time to improve on his rebounding, and has shown some strides recently in that department, and has actually been averaging 6 in the last 5 games. Wow, how do percentages dictate how developed his offensive game is? Samuel Dalembert shoots 60 percent, I guess he has one of the best offensive games in the League....Andrea is good dribbling the ball, he's got a money shot, I've seen him drive it to the rim quite a bit recently, and he is working on his post game. FYI, Dirk was shooting a lower percentage and ppg average than Andrea in his rookie year. Now, he's an offensive superstar. He's a rookie out of Europe. He's definately not used to banging inside with the toughest big men in the world. He will improve downlow over time. Just watch. No duh, anyone with the #1 pick would get Greg Oden. But we wont have the #1 pick, and we won't feel the need to best our ass to trade up and get him, because we've got a star in the making in Andrea.Youre just ignorant. Have you seen Andrea play in the last month? Look how much he has improved already in the early stages of his career. Trust me, with this kid, you'll be eating your words after you watch him play even as soon as next month. He's averaging 13 a game this month, and that will increase even more when the season goes on.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 20 2006, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, so what? What 20 year old rookie straight out of Europe isn't somewhat soft? He will develop a post game, and if you think his 6 blocks was "soft", then w/e. Okay, same thing. Dirk only averaged 3 boards a game when he was a rookie, now he's averaging close to 10. Andrea has a ton of time to improve on his rebounding, and has shown some strides recently in that department, and has actually been averaging 6 in the last 5 games. Wow, how do percentages dictate how developed his offensive game is? Samuel Dalembert shoots 60 percent, I guess he has one of the best offensive games in the League....Andrea is good dribbling the ball, he's got a money shot, I've seen him drive it to the rim quite a bit recently, and he is working on his post game. FYI, Dirk was shooting a lower percentage and ppg average than Andrea in his rookie year. Now, he's an offensive superstar. He's a rookie out of Europe. He's definately not used to banging inside with the toughest big men in the world. He will improve downlow over time. Just watch. No duh, anyone with the #1 pick would get Greg Oden. But we wont have the #1 pick, and we won't feel the need to best our ass to trade up and get him, because we've got a star in the making in Andrea.Youre just ignorant. Have you seen Andrea play in the last month? Look how much he has improved already in the early stages of his career. Trust me, with this kid, you'll be eating your words after you watch him play even as soon as next month. He's averaging 13 a game this month, and that will increase even more when the season goes on.</div>You keep on comparing Bargnani to Dirk, but what makes you think that he will result to what Dirk is doing? Saying that Dirk didnt do that great his rookie season doesn't do much for me what so ever. You didnt even watch basketball when Dirk was a rookie so your comparison right now is invalid. Percentages are a very key factor in saying how somebodys offensive game is. When you have a lower percetage, you shoot from the outside, which is why his percentage is so low. I would like for you to look at other 7 footers (I dont care what age) and tell me how low their percentage is. If you wanted to put two and two together, you would know that the reason he doesn't play downlow as much, is because he isnt as comfortable as he needs to be. He is better from the outside, which isnt really what centers do. That is why I thought that his future COULD be at the SF position. For you even to make the comparison to Samuel Dalembert is dumb....im not going to even comment on that.Yeah your right, Bargani has a money shot that allows him to shoot under 43 percent. And you call me the ignorant one....I dont need to see a player play a whole lot to know that you arent that great of a shooter when your percentage is that low, especially for a center. So much of your argument is stating that he WILL get better at this overtime, but all of that is just speculation. You honestly have no idea what he will do in 5 years because you cant tell the future. The fact of the matter is, that right now, Bargnani isnt a good rebounder, and right now he is a bad rebounder, and right now he shoots a poor percentage. And how do you know the raps wont get the #1 pick? I would bet my life you didnt say that they were going to get it last year....and look what happenned. Anything is possible....And if the Raptors did draft Bargani, I would bet that he would play alot of minutes at the SF position. Draft experts last year put him as a SF/PF last year so you know that he could play that position. And since he likes to play more on the perimeter, that wouldnt be such a bad thing for him. Yes I have seen him play in the last month, and everything that you are saying is blown out of proportion. As a matter of fact, I have seen him play more than 2 times in the past month...
1. The Nuggets got Allen Iverson at a bargain. Good work Denver.2. I'm thinking Iguodala will score a bunch more. This will be the first true point guard of his career. Andre Miller will fit right in with Philadelphia.3. Nene is still a Nugget, which is a smart move by Denver. He's young, he's big, and the other Denver big men (KMart, Camby) are both injury prone.4. I think Iverson and Melo will work out just fine. Neither Melo or AI will lead the league in scoring, but you will see a great show night in and night out. They have pretty bad perimeter defense though. That could change if/when they trade Boykins.
