This is great because in another thread you didn't like my Meyers trade idea because you said he has double double written all over him.. Pick one... So, should we focus on developing him so he can reach that potential, and become that player that increases our overall talent level while retaining a pretty good backup in Kaman or should we cast him aside, as well as Kaman, to get that extra talent? It seems that your confused on what kind of player you think Meyers will be, as it appears you want to let Kaman go for another back up big (brand an wright previous example) but doesn't that further hinder Meyers and his PT, and that potential you were so adamant about? I believe you said 16 and 10. (REFER TO THE GET RID OF BATUM THREAD FOR YOUR OWN WORDS ON MEYERS)
Guys, while kaman has been great for Leonard's development, you guys are acting like Leonard is a five year old that can't find his own way. I've had two amazing mentors in my life. Unexpectedly, they both left around a Years period of time. I still communicate with them, one of them even moved out of state. My career has continued to chug along, even just got a new better job. Leonard will be fine with or without kaman. Hes ready to take that next step. How did dame do last year without mo will?
Keep kaman if it makes sense. If a deal is on the table that provides an upgrade to the starting lineup, and the team wants kaman for immediate salary relief, You do it!!!!! youdon't say Damn, that player would fit great here, but we have to keep a guy making five million to coach a young player that will likely improve on his own. If nothing like that happens, you keep him.
This is the key that is getting so many people to comment on this I think. How on earth do you get that no one wants to improve the team because they liked the post? That is grabbing at straws and you have been since you posted that statement. Me as a Blazer fan was a bit put off, honestly. Lets be serious for a moment. do you REALLY think that any Blazer fan doesn't want to improve the team? Your opinions are yours and I respect that, but when you make statements like that, you better believe Blazer fans are gonna come back at ya. Ill give it a rest, because I honestly think we are all probably closer to being on the same page than any of this reads. Its just that you dissected my post and picked on things without referencing other portions of the post that offset what you were trying to dissect. I got respect for ya Bones, your a Blazer fan and you want the best for the team. Cant knock that, but wasn't it someone famous that said sometimes opinions are better left unsaid?
Hmm...now that you mention it, not as well as the year before...at least the second half of the season. Maybe you're on to something here.
My point is he still made the all star game and kept chugging along. He didn't crawl into a shell and act like a five year old. Give Leonard some credit, he is a man finding his way. He doesn't need a daddy to hold his hand
I don't think anyone has said Meyers will regress or needs his hand held. Just that by his own admission, Kaman has helped him and will keep helping him, so in order to just save 5 mill salary for no reason, it wouldn't make sense to just let him go.
You can't definitely say it's for no reason. You don't know what Olshey wants to do. He might have plans with cap space this offseason. I agree that a five million expiring deal is fine if you can't use it now to upgrade, but you're forgetting he needs to make Aldridge happy. Will lma be happy with the same team? Or does he want Olshey swinging for the fences again where Olshey needs more flexibility this offseason
this year he did help a lot. Problem is going forward I'm not sure how much more Kaman can help. The jumps Meyers made this year were basic fundamentals and confidence. Two things a vet can teach well.
like I've said in this thread before, I'm talking about improving so we can contend next year. That would mean Meyers would get 15 mpg behind Aldridge. Down the road he definitly has the potential to be a 16 and 10 guy. But not next year
This quote just made it seem like instead of trying to use the $5M spent on Kaman to improve the team and push it to contender status, we should just use it for a guy at the end of the bench to help Meyers 5-7 years down the road
Kaman still has PLENTY that he can teach Meyers. Kaman's footwork and passing are superb for a big guy. Meyers has shown a little promise in those areas, which begs for more mentoring from Kaman. Kaman hasn't even scratched the surface of the tips and techniques that can help Meyers become that 16/10 guy. Again, nobody is saying that the only way for Meyers to improve is through Kaman's teachings, or that Meyers will regress or throw a tantrum if Kaman isn't around, or that we shouldn't trade Kaman if a no-brainer offer is made - those are all straw men. What everyone IS saying is that Kaman is plenty useful to us and we shouldn't get rid of him just because, or in a lateral move - it has to be a clear upgrade.
stepping away from the debate about Meyers, I honestly think Kaman is a tad overrated as a player. I don't feel like losing all the reasons why right now, I just don't think it'd be that hard to find an upgrade
Scrub love. Kaman showed enough on offense early in the season that people began to over-look just how bad he was on defense. Then his offense went south and he had no value at all. To top it off, people argue that "he was hurt" as if that was an excuse - when his history of injuries is part of the problem!
We won't know with 100% certainty if it's a clear upgrade before free agency. And the decision has to be made before then. But keeping the team as is and Olshey not being creative could lead to Aldridge leaving. Ironically, I don't think that would cause you as much heartache as kaman would though
I will admit that I absolutely hated his offense, especially when he would force things. He does have amazing footwork though. He's just a bull in a china store when he makes up his mind to score.
