Me vs Olshey with a week to go: my blazers draft list?

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  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I agree and that is why I was making a case for someone like DeRosan yesterday. Not that I want to rehash that again.
     
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    I really like RHJ’s hustle game, but he does not remind me of Cedric Ceballos. RHJ’s game reminds me of Jerome Kersey, who was one of my all time favorite NBA players. Jerome was all hustle, he also had a body build very similar to RHJ’s.

    So why am I neutral on RHJ? I do not see him as a good fit in Stott’s system, which you hint at. Stotts will give time to players that have some skill to score, especially from the 3 pt line.

    Few fans remember this, however, Kersey was a very poor shooter, and seldom made a 3pt shot. I doubt even Kersey would find much playing time in Stott’s system. The NBA has changed and is trending towards spreading the floor and away from banging in the paint, unless the banger is a 7’ center protecting the rim.

    The Blazers need more scoring from the bench, a player such as Anderson is a much better fit than RHJ.
     
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    Cauley-Stein has too much bust potential for me to trade Batum for (which would be our only option IMHO)

    I like your options for #23, I assume that's your order of preference. After the draft I'll see if Olshey agrees!
     
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    IDK, if LMA does not re-sign, I could see sending off Batum for him. No, I don't think other teams will do that, but I agree that there are few NBA players that Porzingis can actually guard.
     
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    No, Ceballos was the (see-though) blindfold. You're thinking of Dee Brown, I think.
     
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    What's with the Oubre love? He SCREAMS bust to me.
     
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    Yep, but that's why it's an ordered list. Right before our pick I'll check off everyone on my list that's been chosen and see if Olshey picks the top person not draft on my list. Come on Olshey, let's see what U got!
     
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    What teams would want Batum? I like him, but I don't think the kind of team in position to draft Porzingis would want to pay $11M for Batum. If we trade up it will be by giving up someone like Leonard or CJ.
     
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    Yeah, but I'm worth billions of dollars - well, at least to me I am!

    Check out the opponent's FG% when Upshaw was on the floor for Washington and compare it to when he was off. Completely ridiculous disparity. You don't do that by "merely" being a shot blocker. Again, IMHO.
     
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    great lists. I'll compare come draft time.
     
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    This is all fun guesstimation for all of us. For a more serious draft appraisal I would have to talk to Stotts. I'd ask him something like "if we had Jerome Kersey in his prime, would you play him?"

    Without the interview I'm assuming the following: there are 2 sides of the ball, and you could argue that Lillard does not fit our defensive "system", yet he starts. RHJ would fit our defensive system to a T.
     
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    Exactly, it won't happen. So, you don't need to worry!
     
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    The thing about RHJ is that a three point shot is the easiest thing to learn. Magic Johnson picked one up in an offseason. So did Channing Frye and Jason Kidd, to name just three. It's a lot easier than midrange jump shots - every bozo in pickup games can shoot threes but practically nobody's got a midrange game.
     
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    Here's my issue with Hunter: I think he's already on our roster. His name is Allen Crabbe.

    I thinks Stotts' aversion to playing young players unless he absolutely has to has stunted these guys' development. The Crabbe I watched play in college looks a lot like the scouting reports I read on Hunter. So I don't see how Hunter would be helping our current playing rotation ... if you are drafting him, you might as well trade the pick for a decent journeyman vet.
     
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    Agreed, and all he needs to do is to hit the corner 3. He had agreed in multiple interviews that his shot needs work. However, I hope that he understands that it needs to be completely overhauled. My kids are proshots nerds ( https://www.youtube.com/user/proshotcoach ). and they agree that his form completely sucks. Even I can see that he's releasing the ball at the wrong time. If he's willing to do it, he could be great.
     
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    Agreed, I've had this same thought. That's why I'm hoping they go SF.
     
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    I would think twice about drafting players to fit a coach's system. Unless you have Pop. Good players last 7-9 years with a team. Most coaches last......much less.

    I understand the reason why we would think that way, but what happens when a coach gets fired, the teams often hires someone with a completely different style. Then we are really screwed. I say grab the best player available if it is obvious. If it is too close to call....... choose by position of need.
     
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    GREAT measurements , decent shooter, he has IMO the most pure potential in the draft only behind Towns, Russell, Mudiay, Porzingis or Upshaw. Also, he and Meyers would be the Lady Killer duo.

    I honestly think his floor as a player would be Dorell Wright.
     
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    He had all of those while he was doing nothing in his one year of college.
     
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    Perhaps, but I know he is considered to have the highest upside of the SFs in the draft. In other words, some team in the teens will draft him and hope! I doubt he's there at #23, for better or worse.
     

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