Me vs Olshey with a week to go: my blazers draft list?

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  1. oldfisherman

    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

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    Give me Kersey/RHJ that is a threat from the 3pt. line, and I would be happier than a midget at a mini-skirt convention.
     
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    I disagree. They might look superficially similar, but Crabbe was never a big assist guy whereas one of Hunter's strengths (according to DX) is passing. But their major difference is in personality. Crabbe is one of the quietest people on a quiet roster and I think his lack of assertiveness has held him back. Hunter, on the other hand, is much more outgoing and strikes me as a much better lockerroom influence.

    But hey, we can play both at the same time!






    But of course, the major point in Hunter's favor is that he has DREXLER'S NUMBER.
     
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    I think it's more of a Kansas thing, their players seem to always underachieve lately.

    Cliff Alexander and Kelly Oubre.... 14-15

    Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid, and Wayne Selden Jr.... 13-14

    Ben McLemore, Perry Ellis... 12-13
     
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    I’m playing devils advocate today.

    OK, so Olshey drafts the BPA. However, this player does not fit into Stott’s system, so the player does not play meaningful game minutes. This talented player rots on the end of our bench for several seasons, while his trade value declines, all for the hope that the next coach might have a system that fits this player?

    How does this approach win more games????

    Take a look at how many players change teams and are not as productive, or, are much more productive with a new coach, due to the how well the player fits into the coach's system.

    Example, we signed a free agent that had his worst season ever as a Blazer. Reason, this talented player did not fit in with what the coach wanted from him. However, he was the NBA’s 6th man of the year twice, once before and once after being a Blazer. (Jamal Crawford)

    It takes more than individual talent to make a team play well together. The coach’s job is to combine player’s skills so they complement each other. Skills that complement each other dramatically increases the effectiveness of the entire team.

    In the military, this combining of skills is known as force multiplication. One of the best ways to visualize this is by taking two similar size armies. However, one army uses some of their team to fly fighter-bombers (3 pt. shooter in BB). Which army has the best chance of winning a battle, the one that attacks with fighter bombers, or the one with a few extra soldiers that are good defenders in the trenches?
     
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    My dream: RHJ or Portis fall.

    Realistic: Anderson or Wright.

    My fear: Looney, Oubre, Harrell, Wood, McCullough
     
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    Looney and Oubre will be good players, the other 3 I'm doubting heavily.
     
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    Gotta disagree. Those 2 have "Darius Miles 2.0" written all over them. The mere fact they consider themselves NBA ready speaks volumes about their egos and basketball IQs.
     
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    Darius miles wasn't a bad player. Besides they aren't idiots, they just see $$$$ like every other person would
     
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    I get the money argument - but when you compare Looney and Oubre to some of the other one-and-done players in this draft, their lack of development is troubling.
     
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    Hunter oozes confidence. Has a lot of Kevin Martin qualities... Small school, lanky, can shoot.
     
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    which is probably a bad thing when you take Lillard-length 3s and shoot 30% from there.
     
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    Do what you can to trade for this prospect:
    Kristaps Porzingis
    Mario Hezonja

    A lot of options at #23 -- Go for it!

    Delon Wright
    Willy Hernangomez
    Robert Upshaw
    Cedi Osman
    Kevon Looney

    Cooling on these players but still solid options:
    Christian Wood - A long-term project. Years away.
    RJ Hunter - If CJ didn't breakout the way he did RJ would be higher on my list.
    Montrel Harrell: High ceiling with a low floor - Ben Wallace or Cedric Simmons. He's a boom or bust player on this level.


    Reach for a potential hidden gem:
    Terran Petteway
    Jonathan Holmes
    Richaun Holmes
    Arturas Gudaitis
    Anthony Brown
     
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    Porzingas is basically Meyers Leonard... why would we trade up for him?
     
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    Their differences are unimportant for purposes of the draft - we have a 3-pt shooting 2G. The fact that one has poor shot selection and the other is thin as a rail.

    My biases:
    Unless we get a 2-guard that is in a tier above other players around our pick, we don't draft a 2G. Hunter is in the same tier as Anderson and others.

    Unless we get a really good PG, I'd rather keep Tim Frazier. People on these boards are down on him because he played in the DLeague, yawn. I think we should give him a real shot at supplanting Steve Blake.

    I don't think we have a backup 3, though I understand Crabbe the Thin can play there.
     
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    Frazier? Are you convinced were rebuilding next year? Frazier doesn't fit at all next to CJ or Dame and he's too small to defend.
     
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    I like Frazier a lot, but you make a good point. If AA and Wes leave, it'd be nice to have Delon to go with Lillard/CJ/Crabbe.
     
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    I don't mind him as a player he's just a horrible fit here even if those guys stay
     
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    Agreed, and I'd add Terran Petteway, Alan Williams and Seth Tuttle as players I'd be happy to see in a Blazers Summer League team.

    (But I'd hope the team would draft Cedi Osman before any of those except maybe Holmes.)
     
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    I'd love Petteway or the Stanford kid.

    Osman is going in the first imo, not sure if take him over a Delon Wright
     

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