This just reinforces my belief that his "lifetime ban" from the game...and also the HOF, should be just that....for his lifetime. http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...ines-shows-pete-rose-bet-baseball-player-1986
Seeing & hearing this, I've just changed my mind............................................Fuck him!
...rick, he let down a lot of people, even well before this latest report. All those years (15) of staunchly denying any wrongdoing and getting the support of ex-mates like Morgan and Bench made them, as well as a lot of others, look like fools for believing and backing him...ask them how they feel about Rose. ...and now this ?...no way he gets reinstated now, much less see the HOF while he's alive.
Even after everything that went on and all those years passed he had the chance to come completely clean. He then comes out and states he started in 1987 so he didn't have to admit that he bet while he was still playing. Now evidence clearly shows he was betting in 1986 and if you believe that's when he happened to start gambling like that you're crazy. The bottom line is that he still had a chance here and still messed it up. I have no sympathy.
...^^^ me either, mess. I mean, like Tim Kurkjian pointed out, to paraphrase, If we're reasonably not sure these games are on the up and up, there's no sense in even watching them.
...I wonder how many pundits/fans who have remain Rose supporters have changed their minds about whether he should be elected to the HOF?
"this is the final piece of the puzzle, this closes the door" (Dowd), the door to the HOF.... Charlie is still trying to hustle MLB and its fans...... The Fkr IS STILL LYING.......bury his ass, burn his records........
...^^^ good stuff; great post....... Lock the door for good, and bury his name for eternity...... Hopefully Manfred will cut thru Rose's bullshit, and all this will blow up in Rose's face, one last final time a Commish, should have to address the issue of Rose...... the Shit Storm has arrived.... Rose isn't even worth burying behind the barn in Cooperstown....feed him to the Gators.......
Even if the jerk would have said (when admitting that he did bet on baseball) "I believe it was only 87-88, I don't remember EXACTLY but yeah, I think it was only 87-88". Instead of saying that it was ONLY 87-88. Now the idiot is pissing on our heads & trying to tell us its raining out. He blew any chance he had of getting in.
... article by Jayson Stark...never was a fan of his before but this is just terrible; http://espn.go.com/mlb/conversations/_/id/13136055
I actually like the idea... Wish we could do something similar for the likes of Bonds, Clemens, etc. who are under the cloud of using/cloud of suspicion of using 'roids phrasing... I'd be ok with them too... Shoeless Joe should be definitely in, but if the need to have something on there, say while he accepted money, it couldn't be proven he did anything to affect the game... In the end, no one had more hits than Rose... no one... That should be enough... don't let him be involved in any way... Can't manage, can't attend games, but for God's sake... he has more hits than anyone else...
...I disagree, hammer...Bonds, Clemens, and Rose already have their names in the record books forever, and IMO, that's enough...But the HOF?...No way. ...again, IMO, it's called The Hall of Fame, not The Hall of Infamy.
As we used to say in the military, one can score all the atta boys in existence its the ah shit that does you in.
...pretty much. I mean, the HOF is the highest honor that can be given for a lifetime in Baseball. And consideration for The Hall should include everything, not just part of a player's association with the game. ...as I like to point out, I'm sure that a one time, Bernie Madoff was one helluva banker/investor but that does not offset what he eventually became.
MLB Rule 21; "Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible."
1- Excellent Article, thanks.......... 2- Or "The Hall of Shame", not even a separate Out House for those infamous shameless bastards.... 3- Madoff made off alright.... ...^^^ "one helluva banker" prior to his Ponzi Tripo.....
