Is anyone on the roster going to break out?

I saw optimistic prognosis for Noah after his surgery.

I'm no sucker.

 

Official Bulls press release:

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/minor-arthroscopic-surgery-cleans-out-noahs-left-knee.html

MINOR ARTHROSCOPIC SURGERY CLEANS OUT NOAH'S LEFT KNEE
Noah is expected to rehab his left knee during the offseason for the next eight to 12 weeks

May 2, 2014 -- The Chicago Bulls announced today that center Joakim Noah successfully underwent minor arthroscopic surgery to clean out his left knee. The procedure was performed at Rush Oak Park Hospital by Chicago Bulls head team physician Dr. Brian Cole. He is expected to rehab his left knee during the offseason for the next eight to 12 weeks.

(Minor. hahahahahahahaha)

 

Dr. KC Johnson on Noah's surgery:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...h-20140501_1_major-damage-knee-exit-interview

No major damage found in Noah's knee

As Joakim Noah left his exit interview at the Berto Center on Wednesday, he said his left knee was "good.

Here's why: The MRI that coach Tom Thibodeau said the Chicago Bulls center would undergo revealed no major issues.

Although Noah could face a minor procedure to stabilize the knee, the injury is considered minor. There is no concern that the injury, which Noah quietly battled for several weeks down the regular-season stretch, will linger into next season.

Thibodeau confirmed Wednesday that Noah needed fluid drained from the knee, which visibly affected him during the season-ending Game 5 loss to the Washington Wizards on Tuesday.

 

Okay, this is not being intellectually honest, and the narrative you've fashioned is nonsense.

No one around here really complained about Thibs playing Gibson instead of Mirotic; we complained that Thibs's rotations were erratic and he wasn't putting players in positions to succeed, especially in regard to the younger players. We complained that Thibdoeau's use of Mirotic was bipolar. He'd start him, and then he'd bring him off the bench, and then he'd play big minutes, and then he played almost none, and then he'd play him at small forward, and then slide him back to power forward . . . And as soon as Mirotic seemed to get somewhat comfortable and begin to produce regularly, Thibs would throw him into a different situation and ask him to do completely different things. Thibs had a shitty year in terms of setting his rotations, and the Bulls were not good last season. You seem to lose this central point in all of the chatter about whether the front office and ownership are to blame for how the season ended.

As to Gibson, I think it's going to be difficult to move him for any players of value. Everyone is welcome to their opinions on whether Thibs wears his players out with too many minutes and too hard practices. But it's clear that many teams do not agree with his stance on how hard to push players. After playing his entire career under Thibs, many teams are going to view Taj Gibson as damaged goods, and maybe they're right. I have a feeling our front office would say that Thibodeau shortened the careers of three allstars. I'm sure there's other front offices out there who agree with him. Maybe they could have moved Gibson last season, but the memory of Noah completely falling apart is too fresh in everyone's mind.

 

Actually, there was this morning wood guy who was constantly harping on benching Taj for Mirotic. All kinds of small sample size and poorly interpreted stats. Yada yada.

The Bulls won 50 games (.609) last season. They were 30-16 (.652) after beating the champion Warriors 113-111 - while playing Mirotic as Thibs played him. Only Cleveland and Atlanta had records better than .609 in the East. Only Atlanta, GSW, Houston, Memphis, San Antonio, and the Clippers were better than .652.

It's hard to call the Bulls a bad team, or suggest he wasn't successful with his schemes.

It's not clear at all that any other team but this one thinks Thibs did a single thing wrong - aside from signing his contract extension.

 

Mirotic was the 4th guy in the rotation for Noah / Gasol / Gibson / Mirotic. As a rookie that seemed to make sense. To get him minutes, Thibs would play him at the 3, but that wasn't a great position for him and negated the stretch/playmaking 4 advantages of having a guy like that to begin with.

The large minutes for Mirotic followed by fewer usually had to do with injuries. Front office created the 4 player logjam at the 4/5. It will still exist next season if everyone is here healthy. One of the four will be getting screwed out of minutes. I don't think it will be Mirotic on the short end since he's the GarPax favorite. (and of course he's a pretty good NBA basketball player at this point as well)

As for the Bulls not being good last season, they were a missed Blatt TO notice or a missed James jumper away from probably going to the NBA Finals and had the 11th most efficient offense in the NBA.

It will be interesting to see how the change in head coach improves that offensive efficiency. I think most expect a poorer defense.

Thibs gets the most out of his guys. I wonder if Deng or Noah would have even been all-stars without him. I highly doubt Noah would have made the 1st team all-NBA without him.

Now that Thibs is gone, expectations are being lowered. But he was the problem, right? You would think that would raise the expectations, now that the problem has been removed.

 

This.

(Thibs deserves a lot of credit for his strengths, which are many, but he wasn't perfect, he had weaknesses. The same with the FO. Both will be continue to be successful without the other, I suspect.)

 

No correlation. Different players, different body parts, etc...

 

Same optimistic bullshit from the official Bulls mouthpieces.

Believe at your own risk.

 

No correlation.

 

Correlation = same mouthpiece, similar claim.

Believe it at your own risk.

 

Same organization, what do you expect?

But different player, different body part, may even be a different surgeon.

No correlation.

 

Same organization that sent Omer Asik out to play on a broken leg.

Correlation. Slam dunk.

Believe at your own risk.

 

How does that relate to his surgeons prognosis on his knee?

 

It relates to the stream of wrong health data that comes from Bulls mouthpieces after surgeries and injuries.

They have no clue.

You've provided the correlation yourself a few times.

 

So Taj's surgeon is lying on behest of the Bulls? They've convinced him to lie? Or they've twisted his prognosis?

Is that your contention?

 

Actually, I don't see Taj's surgeon saying anything. Nor the Bulls' statement about the surgery being optimistic.

In fact, what I do see is this:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...-taj-gibson-ankle-surgery-20150619-story.html

“The doctors told me that’s basically going to go away probably after the season is done,” Gibson said in late February. “I said, ‘Doc, whatever it takes. Just bandage me up. I’m going to get my treatment and do what I can on the court.’ No excuses. Try to help my team any way I can.”

In May 2014, the Bulls announced Joakim Noah underwent minor arthroscopic left knee surgery and would need eight to 12 weeks of rehab. The knee then plagued Noah throughout last season.

(and at the beginning, Taj found a different doctor who had a different opinion than the Bulls' ones)

Next, the veteran Bulls big man sought several medical opinions and a comfort level. This being Gibson’s first surgery, this was no easy decision.

Finally, on Tuesday, Gibson’s determined mentality succumbed to a surgeon’s knife.
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KC makes the correlation.

 

Also:

http://trib.in/1Gn1Ooo

 

So... Gibson's agent says he's optimistic. What about it?

No two injuries are exactly the same, this is true. But when the Bulls say Noah's surgery was minor, it set a certain expectation that he'd recover from it quickly and to his former abilities.

 

It's hardly the only time, within and outside the Bulls organization, that an optimisitc prognosis has gone awry, and it's just plain craziness to use Noahs case to say that none of them will come true, whether from the Bulls organization or not.