I'll give it a B only because we all still have yet to see how Iverson can cooperate with Carmelo Anthony. I gave it higher than C only becasue I think they will do quite well with eachother, except their PPG will probably go down with the both of them splitting shots, but it should be for the better, IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Man with No Name @ Dec 24 2006, 02:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's how it is for all draft picks, even in the lottery. Also, it's great to have three picks because of the deep draft. It's better then one and is needed for a team rebuilding. I mean I'm not following the logic as you state your better picking a starting player for Spain but then mention Tony Parker as a late pick. I mean there's a couple players who've been taken late first/2nd round that have made an impact starting wise. And then there's some who contribute off the bench. Three first round picks for a rebuilding team is a great way to start.</div>what I ment was, you're just more likely to pick a player who won't be in the league in 2-3 years and will be playing in Spain than you are to pick a contributor.Draft picks are nice and all, but when you give up a top level all-star like AI, picks in the 20's are nothing to crow about IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>what I ment was, you're just more likely to pick a player who won't be in the league in 2-3 years and will be playing in Spain than you are to pick a contributor.</div>I disagree, that same notion can be said for players taken in the lottery as well. Like Bargnani for one example in this past draft along with Saer Sane. Just because it's a late pick doesn't mean the guys are going to projects. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Draft picks are nice and all, but when you give up a top level all-star like AI, picks in the 20's are nothing to crow about IMO.</div>Star players are rarely traded for other star players. It just doesn't happen and the Sixers are rebuilding. So their not going to take back any large contract and will try and build cap room. Draft picks don't carry much weight on the cap and help towards rebuilding. So I think it's plenty reason to talk about them since Joe Smith/Andre Miller to me are just stopgaps. Especially in Joe Smith's case.
Draft's are different every year, and let's remember that not ALL star talent is only in the top 5 picks...This COULD work out in Philly's favor.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (falconman1130 @ Dec 24 2006, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Draft's are different every year, and let's remember that not ALL star talent is only in the top 5 picks...This COULD work out in Philly's favor.</div>Thankyou! There are alot of players that get drafted out of the first 5 that make big splashes in the NBA. Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Michael Redd, Gilbert Arenas were all picked after the 28th pick, and their are SEVERAL very top notch players picked after the top 5. Paul Pierce, Dirk Nowitzki, Kobe Bryant, exc...
If Minnesota wants to start over and get younger they could trade Garnett for Melo. This imo would be a better fit for Iverson if he had Garnett who will help you in many ways rather than another volume shooter which is Melo.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If Minnesota wants to start over and get younger they could trade Garnett for Melo. This imo would be a better fit for Iverson if he had Garnett who will help you in many ways rather than another volume shooter which is Melo.</div>Please tell me your embarrassed for saying that... We would never trade away our franchise player who is going to end up being better than Kevin Garnett anyway. Carmelo is 10 years younger than Garnett and he might already be the better player.Use your head, Please.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Dec 25 2006, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please tell me your embarrassed for saying that... We would never trade away our franchise player who is going to end up being better than Kevin Garnett anyway. Carmelo is 10 years younger than Garnett and he might already be the better player.Use your head, Please.</div>I wouldn't go that far, Garnett's probably still the best all-around player in the league, maybe second to LeBron, he can do it all. Carmelo's a great scorer, but he doesn't have the complete game that KG has. He probably will be better someday, but saying he is already better than a former MVP is a bit of a stretch.
I said he might be better, I don't think he's the better player but it's extremely close. I just can't believe Mavsfan thinks the Nuggets would trade Carmelo.
Yeah I agree. If they were both older then I think it's a reasonable move, but Garnett's on the tail end of his career, while Carmelo's still young. I do think KG would be ranked higher all-time if he had ever had decent help though, much like Pierce. He's an amazing player who can do it all, but when you have to do it all you don't win championships. I was really happy for him when he won the MVP in 2004, he really deserved it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ Dec 25 2006, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I agree. If they were both older then I think it's a reasonable move, but Garnett's on the tail end of his career, while Carmelo's still young. I do think KG would be ranked higher all-time if he had ever had decent help though, much like Pierce. He's an amazing player who can do it all, but when you have to do it all you don't win championships. I was really happy for him when he won the MVP in 2004, he really deserved it.</div>Having a frontline of Garnett and Camby would be incredible. 2 shot blockers. It sounds like you are overrating Carmelo. He is a great scorer but so is AI and Garnett does a lot more in other categories. Rebounding, defense, passing, and etc. Yeah they'll lose some because of the age difference but they should be looking for a championship NOW anyways because AI won't be at this level that long. Minnesota's better off rebuilding so getting younger would be key. The deal looks great for both teams imo.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Dec 25 2006, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Having a frontline of Garnett and Camby would be incredible. 2 shot blockers. It sounds like you are overrating Carmelo. He is a great scorer but so is AI and Garnett does a lot more in other categories. Rebounding, defense, passing, and etc. Yeah they'll lose some because of the age difference but they should be looking for a championship NOW anyways because AI won't be at this level that long. Minnesota's better off rebuilding so getting younger would be key. The deal looks great for both teams imo.</div>You don't get it, Denver would NEVER trade away Carmelo Anthony this early in his career. He is our franchise player. He will end up having a better career than Kevin Garnett.
Skill aside, the NBA is a business and moving Carmelo for Garnett makes no sense from that perspective. He's young, he's a superstar, he puts fans in the seats, and he revitalized the franchise; basically they're going to make more money with Carmelo in a Nuggets jersey than Garnett.
It was a great trade for both teams. From Philly's perspective, they will be able to put together a very strong draft in '07 and build around Igoudala. I think they have 3 first round picks now so there's a possibility that they trade two of them for a top 3 or 5 pick which could land a vital cornerstone piece to the puzzle. Andre Miller is one of the better point guards in the league and he'll have a solid career in Philly and they'll also have plenty of cap room over the off season to add a star and some depth.Denver made this trade at a perfect time. They can still have success without Melo, Camby, and Smith and they can still be in the playoff picture when the starters return.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Dec 26 2006, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You don't get it, Denver would NEVER trade away Carmelo Anthony this early in his career. He is our franchise player. He will end up having a better career than Kevin Garnett.</div>Read my post again. 1 championship is better than none. Garnett can still have 5 great years left. Melo is the future but the future might not be good if Iverson isn't good enough along with the rest of the team. That's why I think this year Denver has the best chance of winning it if they get Garnett. You're just being a homer if you think Melo is better than Garnett. There are plenty of scoring options so defense and rebounding is where Denver needs to improve in.
