The sixth big

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by PtldPlatypus, Jul 7, 2015.

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What kind of sixth big should we bring in?

  1. Max-level player (Kanter)

    35.3%
  2. Aging veteran (Boozer)

    5.9%
  3. Young backup (Seraphin)

    17.6%
  4. Project big (Moultrie)

    17.6%
  5. Something I didn't describe (please explain)

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  6. Better to just leave the spot open

    23.5%
  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Assuming we accept the premise that Aminu was brought in to play the 3, we presently have 5 big men on the roster: Vonleh, Leonard, Plumlee, Davis, and Kaman. If you accept the premise that a balanced 15-man roster should have 3 at each position, that leaves an opening for one more 4/5. But, there are different schools of thought as to how to fill that spot.
    • Do we go for someone like Kanter--someone who is ready to be a number 2 option right now?
    • Would we be better with someone like Kevin Seraphin--young and NBA caliber, but clearly a career backup?
    • Perhaps someone like Arnett Moultrie, a virtual unknown who is nothing but untapped potential?
    • Or maybe someone like Boozer, an aging vet on the downside of his career who can help support and develop our young guys (a la Kaman)?
    • Something else entirely that didn't occur to me?
    • Or in lieu of any of these options, would we be better off just leaving the spot open?
     
  2. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I think you can go a few different ways. But what you should not do is sign someone who is average and costs over 5 million per. If Neil can get a young starting center who he really likes....spend the money. Or if he can get someone young with potential, but comes cheap......that works too.

    Just don't bring in a player who is average at best and also costs too much. We have average already. We need great, cheap, or young with potential. (And also cheap)
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    If a guy is young and has potential, why does he have to be cheap?
     
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    LuckyShot Well-Known Member

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    Depends on how much you want to play the 5 guys we have and/or what your team goals are for the immediate future.
     
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    I guess you are right. He doesn't have to come cheap. This is all a bit too hypothetical. I would need to know how much potential the guys has and how expensive his contract would be to answer that.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Kanter: Definitely no. Too expensive. Not worth it. Other positions of need. He might be just good enough to cost us a higher lottery pick.

    Boozer: No. Wrong direction. Rather have Kaman. And, yuck.

    Seraphin (type): Hmmm...worth thinking about.

    Moultrie (type): Might be getting to the extreme of too many project bigs, but let's have a look at him in Summer League.

    Leave Open: TBD

    IOW: I don't know. :)
     
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    I think I'd prefer a guy like Freeland. Someone who can give you minutes but, basically, is what he is, so isn't looking for playing time to develop and get a bigger contract. Everyone seems to just want an entire roster of youth, but I believe you can run into big problems if you have almost an entire squad eyeing their next contract.
     
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    ^I am also down with Freeland! I will say I not positive that we absolutely need to have one more PF/C though.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I only voted Kanter because of age and offensive ability. I also like that he can score in ISO situations, adding another dynamic to our athletic core.
     
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    We already have a 6th big in Aminu. We don't need a 7th.

    I'd only acquire one if it's either a salary dump we get another asset for or it's a young player that has a chance of breaking out. This player needs to be content starting the year on the inactive list with DNP. We are going to lose a lot so don't want disgruntled players bickering about playing time.
     
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    Is he worth 15-16 million per season? OKC says they will match anything. I am not sure that is true, but I bet they would go as high as 12-14.
     
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    I think we are going to keep one or two roster spots open, so we'll carry 13 or 14 guys when the season opens
     
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    Why not? I mean with the new cap coming out, a 15-16 mil contract is more like a 12-13 mil one. He is still very very young and already has a very polished post game.

    We need someone we can ISO in the post to keep our offense diversified. I know his defense sucks, but that's probably why he isn't sought after, but if you surround him with solid defenders, you can supplement this weakness.
     
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    Amino will be our starting SF. I don't see why he wouldn't
     
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    He may. We might want more shooting at the 3 and the athleticism mismatch of Aminu at PF.
     
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    I like Freeland. A lot. But he is a journeyman. We don't need him, and he would just stunt the development of our "up-side" guys who need the minutes, both for their development and so we can evaluate what we have.
     
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    I guess it comes down to Meyers and Vonleh. How will they develop? I consider Meyers a stretch 5. He and Plumlee are a solid duo.

    I am hoping Davis and Vonleh will be a solid duo at PF after Vonleh gets a year of experience. It is a gamble but Neil would know better than I if that is doable.

    But if he thinks Vonleh can get there after a year, the question is.....would that 15-16 million to get Kanter be better spent on a scoring wing than a scoring center? I say keep it for a wing.
     
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    With the injury problems this franchise has. I doubt it.
     
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    Yes, yes, a thousand times yes! Spend the money on a wing! Or don't spend it at all.
     
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