WHERE DID I SAY LOTTERY PICK....stop combining posts...all I said was I wouldn't think a 1st rounder would be part of a package
because going back and re reading is not something you will do....that was my entire post...I gave you props by saying your proposal was interesting...
by the way...you are the one who called Stepan an asshole...so how am I over valuing another team's player exactly?
Now, a team that isn't rebuilding at all any longer is Florida. You might be able to do Stepan for Barkov and Bolland. That might be possible if you are willing to take back Bolland's idiotic contract. That's a long shot but you never know.
I do not believe ROR's new contract can be used as a comparable at arbitration. ROR's current 6M contract can be though. ROR's contract structure might also cause a prob too if Steps agent tries the same thing (its almost 90 bonuses so it avoids escrow and buyouts). Saads contract doesnt help either. Step is getting 6M if we are lucky, 6.7-7.2 is prob more realistic, like it or not. Someone is getting moved, could be a number of guys discussed here, but someone is def going. Hope the loonie rebounds next year or the cap will really be a problem
Agree we will be lucky if he only gets $6m. I can see the Rangers offering $5.7m and him asking for $7m+. If he asks for $7m a year I see it way more likely he gets $7m then $5.7m
id see what Carolina would offer for Staal. I think out of the big 3 he would be the one I would give up and get max value for. I say that because I wont give up McD at any cost
Staal would be the guy I'd move also if possible, but he has a NMC so very doubtful. If Stepan demands 7 mill he will be traded...that simple to me.
I dont disagree, but wouldnt be shocked if we gave him 7m. Wouldnt like it, but not sure who we get to to replace him for less. Staal to CAR to clear room for Step and that top 6 forward we are missing makes some sense, maybe he would waive to go play with his brothers. Prob not, but not impossible...
Staal has to approve any deal...who knows if he will. And I still think a long term deal with an AAV of 6 mill +/- is possible for Step...I really do. I think he wants to be a Ranger...but we'll see.
If Stepan gets more than 5-6 mil, the Ranger trade gates will open real wide. When will the average players understand that hockey is a team sport.....and they are not super stars.
Stepan is way above average. However, this is becoming a disturbing trend from players on a team that have never won a cup. They want to be paid like star, cup winners and they aren't. That is why trades happen.
Welcome to sports. It isn't just hockey players, actually they are better than the players from most sports on this. Stepan is a very good player, not a great player but a very good two-way player. I have always felt a long term deal with a cap hit of 6 mill +/- was fair for him, we'll see if it plays out like that. Again up to this second nothing that has happened has been unexpected. So to me there isn't any real smoke yet. Once a hearing date is set and we get closer to the day then we'll know how this is really going to play out.
Stepan is no star of the game. He may be an important cog on the Rangers, but he's not star billing yet.OK, he may be better than average, but my point is what has he done that warrants a 'star' income....like kreidertime says, he's not (part of) a Cup winner.
I like Stepan but where would he deserve getting paid heads and shoulders above Brassard? That's where this stuff just starts to get silly.
Players like Callahan, Boyle and Stralman have already demonstrated they have no loyalty to this team. All three were never will be's before the Rangers developed them. The only players I've seen shown some loyalty to the organization are Hank and Zucc. Hank because he's saved this team for years. Zucc because he took less to stay part of this team. All the other players when it comes down to it are greedy pigs.
