This franchise just gave Enes Kanter the same money as they let Wes Matthews walk for

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  1. BLAZINGGIANTS

    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    For sure. John is a whiny bitch. Was about to say they got rid of his show but then I realized it might be on when in dont listen.
     
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    Obviously, A 23 year old with a high PER who you can build your offense around, regardless of his defense, is worth more than a broken down 28 year old role player to a franchise that is "developing", regardless of the fact that we all like Wes.
     
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    Yeah it's on every day, he rules that station. Nobody can disagree with him or he blackballs them. The stupid thing is I think he's actually a decent guy, which makes me think even more that his spiel is just flat out made up to keep himself relevant.
     
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    Because nobody cares about those teams, less clicks.
     
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    28 and busted achilles. 23 and getting better every year. Younger dude got the money.
     
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    Paying Wes 17.5 million per year is a fucking asinine. Sorry. I love the guy, but even when he was healthy he wasn't worth that much. Cuban is desperate.
     
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    Yeah I'm glad he got paid but I'm more glad we didn't pay him...
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I'm seriously starting to wonder if Wes really did consider backing out, and Cuban threw more money at him. He did make that tweet about being gone if DJ was gone (which he quickly deleted.)

    If I was a Mavs fan I would be furious though. First they strike out on Jordan and then they sign Wes to 17.5 million per year?
     
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    Yeah that's exactly what I think happened. Wes said, "Fuck this if Cuban doesn't get DJ I'm going back to Portland." And Cuban said, "I'll give you all the money if DJ leaves, just delete that tweet."
     
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    I don't think he could stomach losing both of his marquee signings. I think it's VERY strange that Wes got significantly more than was originally reported.
     
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    Damnit you guys are ruining my fantasy scenario. In my head Wes and his agent stroll on into the room and Cuban is like "thanks for sticking to your word Wes, you're a cool cat. But I think we should discuss the terms of your contract again" and then Wes and his agent are like oh what the fuck now. But then they look at the contract and it's for max and everyone hugs and drinks champagne and there are lots of feels.


    Meanwhile in SA there is no champagne and as soon as the line is signed Pop quietly whispers "you're my bitch now" while a single tear of fear rolls from Duncan's eye.
     
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    It's like that scene in Game of Thrones. Popovich is Ramsay Bolton, LaMarcus is Sansa Stark, and Duncan is Reek.

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    AHAHAHAHAHAHA


    Yes.
     
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    Money aside (Paul Allen's problem, not mine) if we do land Kanter, are we really as bad as we think? We have added 5 guys under the age of 25, and a 27yo Henderson. Aside from Vonleh they were all significant contributors and or at least part time starters. Statistically what have we added vs lost?

    Per 36
    Kanter 19.6pt 11.3reb 20.3PER
    Davis 12.8pts 11.7reb 20PER
    Plumlee 14.8pts 10.6reb 18PER
    Aminu 10.9pts 9reb 14.4PER
    Henderson 15.1pts 4.2reb 13.2PER
    Vonleh 11.5pts 12reb 13.5PER

    Compared to
    Aldridge 23.8pts 10.8reb 22.8PER
    Matthews 17pts 3.9reb 16.1PER
    Batum 10pts 6.3reb 13.1PER
    Lopez 12.4pts 8.7reb 16.2PER
    Afflalo 12.6pts 3.2reb 8.2PER
    Freeland 9.9pts 11.1reb 12.2PER

    I know i know stats aren't enough but stats alone suggest we might be better than we think, if we land Kanter.
     
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    This is why I'm secretly stoked for next season. I feel like we could rattle off a stupid-long winning streak for no good reason, just because we don't know how good we could be.
     
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    When Wes' deal was originally agreed to the dollar amount wasn't known. The reports said it depended on DeAndre signing. Once DeAndre committed it was reported at $57million.

    What I believe happened is before Wes comitted the Mavs knew the Kings offered $64million and told Wes they'd pay him every dollar they could if DeAndre joined which was $57 million but if DeAndre didn't join he'd get $70 million.

    The Mavs wanted to get Wes commitment to help convince DeAndre to sign.
     
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    It seems right...they are forcing OKC'S hand, they know they will match so they are gonna make them pay. He would be worth that money over Wes anyhow.
     
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    On it's face the thread title looks bad. However, teams are willing to pay players based on how valuable they perceive those players to be to their team at that point in time, not just generally how good a player is viewed around the league. Wes isn't that valuable to us at this stage.
     
  20. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    It looks even better if you only use Kanter's OKC numbers. Per 36 - 21.8 pts, 12.8 reb, 24.9 PER.
     
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