Now that a little time has passed, how do you feel about LMA leaving?

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  1. Duvalier

    Duvalier Active Member

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    Disappointed he left, but wish him the best going forward except when he plays the Blazers.
     
  2. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Same.

    He wanted out for 3 years
    Olshey and the team were in a tough spot because they were winning enough to make trading him unlikely

    I am in the same mindset Olshey is. I want players that want to be in Portland
     
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    ripcityboy Well-Known Member

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    I am lightening up a bit. I only want to set his uniform on fire not blow it up into little threads.
     
  4. oldfisherman

    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

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    Not picking on you Denny, I appreciate your input, but want to expand on your Clippers topic.

    I was very impressed with NO’s press conference, on every level except for his referring back to his time with the Clippers. He did it several times. This was a big no-no on several levels. You never brag about what you did on the last job and how you are going to do the same thing on the new job. Reason, the issues and resources are not the same from job to job, so results will vary.

    Example: NO got very lucky to trade for CP3. He implied that he was going to eventually make a similar trade here. Good luck trading a franchise player to Portland, especially if he keeps pissing off other GMs the way he tried to last week with Presti.

    Also, we have not had the same success rate at signing quality FAs as large markets teams such as teams in LA have had.

    My point is, Olshey will have a much more difficult job to rebuild the Blazers than it was to rebuild the Clippers. He should never compare the two; it is faulty reasoning. If Olshey thinks he will have the same results he had with the Clippers, he is fooling himself and misleading the fans. His best hope now is for a high lottery draft pick, and then wait the 3-5 years when everyone has developed enough to compete in the playoffs.

    The 3-5 year wait to compete in the playoffs is why I am upset with the problems LMA has caused.
     
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  5. ThugginPaulyGAllen

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    I was wondering if he was summer league, hmm, emergence, has taken a bit of the sting away from LMA leaving; obviously we will be worse, but he has showed some promise.
     
  6. ThugginPaulyGAllen

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    Probably, but, I'm not saying this is on Aldridge, but we only got out of the first round once with him.

    I'd argue that in 3 or 4 years, the potential of this team is much greater (if everything shakes out, which it won't - but I think we were pretty much stuck where we were with LMA We would've brought everyone back, as Aldridge aged, Matthews recovery would've been a huge ?? and Vonleh never would've developed behind Aldridge.)
     
  7. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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  8. ThugginPaulyGAllen

    ThugginPaulyGAllen Active Member

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    This has proven to be false lately, has it not? Lakers have struck out on NUMEROUS FA's, Dwight left, DeAndre almost left, and Greg Monroe shot down the Knicks for a young Milwaukie team that I'd say we are attempting to emulate.

    Agree that we will not get a CP3 level player, but, we already have our superstar in Dame (hopefully). We need our 2nd and 3rd pillars. I think he tries to trade for one of them, rather than a top 3 player at the time. (DeRozan for instance, not saying him, but similarly quality. A true #3 guy or #2 guy, while we wait for Vonleh, Meyers or McCollum to develop into - something).

    Disagree that it'll be more difficult to rebuild the Blazers than the Clippers - the Clippers were the laughing stock of the entire league when he rebuilt them. We have youth, talent, and now plenty of assets to make a trade if something unbelievable comes along. Refer to the amount of lotto talent we have on this team: the odds say we are likely to have SOMEONE pan out. As a matter of fact, I think I've seen articles posted in this forum saying how the Blazers are in a GREAT Position to rebuild and it won't take nearly as long some think.

    Truly, if one of our young guys pan out and we hit gold in the FA market (unlikely, I'll give you that. But say we overachieve, win a decent amount of games, someone think sthey are the missing piece for our team next year in FA, ala monroe and the Bucks?) we could be back in the playoffs relatively soon.

    As I run through it, I agree with you - he shouldn't compare the two because it is faulty reasoning - but I differ from you in that this rebuild will be easier than the Clippers because we already have a point guard. Sure they got lucky getting there PG, but they still haven't gotten out of the second round, either. And its much easier to trade/sign a 3rd fiddle than it is to trade for or sign the guy. We already have our guy,

    and thats

    Damian Fucking Lillard. :)
     
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  9. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Lillard signed a long extension. Portland can keep a superstar.

    Olshey has a track record. His history of moves earns my trust. Isaiah Thomas has not earned my trust. Dig?
     
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    After the mid-season trade for CP3, Olshey still had Blake Griffin, Caron Butler, and DeAndre Jordan, that is 4 quality starters. He also had Randy Foye a lottery team level starter, and young Eric Bledsoe a future starter.

    I would take that Clippers team to rebuild around over our roster with Dame, and only Dame as our quality starter.
     
  11. Scalma

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    I hypothetically wipe my ass with his jersey every day. I say hypothetically because I never had his jersey. But if I did, I would.
     
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    I'm not disagreeing or agreeing. My statement is that a team won't win with LA as a real #1 or #2. I won't be surprised to see SA make LA the #1 or #2, but I don't see them winning it all that way. I'm not saying SA won't win it all, I'm not saying SA won't make LA the #1 or #2. I'm saying I don't believe SA wins it all with LA as a real #1 or #2.
     
  13. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    FTFY.

    barfo
     
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    We disagree then...I think SA wins it and I will go out and say with him being the #1 option. In the end it's more about coach and system. I think that coach and system can get it done with LA as the #1.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    When Olshey took over the Clippers in March 2010, his top players were Rasual Butler, Chris Kaman, Baron Davis, and Eric Gordon, only one of whom was younger than 27, and none of whom had a PER over 18.

    All of them had to be jettisoned during their rebuild. We have nobody on our squad that fits a similar profile. As has been pointed out before, most rebuilds require a teardown; we have a head start since Aldridge already performed the teardown for us.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Mannnn... Fuck him.... I'm still trying to figure out what I'm gonna do with my red #12.

    #outthejerseygame4life
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    2 words for you: butt floss.
     
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    wont have to complain about his 3 for 17 games
     
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    Look up how dude's story of what he did with his bride's dress. You'll find many uses.
     
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