Finding Drexler

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  1. Schilly

    Schilly Well-Known Member

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    Our pick is top 14 protected in 2016 and 2017, If the pick isn't conveyed then it becomes a 2nd rounder I believe in 2018.
     
  2. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I've tried, but could not have said it better.

    :cheers:
     
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  3. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Are you really going to make me bust out the Allen Iverson "Practice?!" youtube clip?
     
  4. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Which is why making the playoffs this year or next would be counterproductive to the talent acquisition phase the team is in.
     
  5. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Hence...NOT TANKING

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  6. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Theoretically, we could trade a "first available" pick, which would be either 2018 or 2019.
     
  7. Schilly

    Schilly Well-Known Member

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    Actually after the season is over if we miss the playoffs we retain the pick and could then trade it.
     
  8. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    True. But in the stage we are in i think that would be stupid for a guy like mclemore.
     
  9. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Stepein rule. Can't have two consecutive years traded at once. So I believe it would have to be after we make the selection
     
  10. Schilly

    Schilly Well-Known Member

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    It resets each year, past drafts aren't factored.
     
  11. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    In my opinion, the overall talent level on the team, with the exception of the missing top-caliber wing, is pretty good. If we can get the missing wing this year and complete the core, I can see a quick reboot to contention by moving some of the young guys in lopsided deals for more proven role players. I'm hoping that this is a pit stop in irrelevancy land and that Olshey can finish off the necessary modifications next summer before hitting the gas. I'm getting too damned old to be watching the Blazers rebuild for another decade.
     
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  12. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Yes I know. But I believe it resets with the moratorium. Which would mean after the draft concludes and we made our selection
     
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    Were on the same page my man!
     
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    When we miss the 2016 playoffs and are confirmed to be able to keep our 2016 pick, we would still owe (potentially) our 2017 pick, so we would not be permitted to trade our 2016 pick pre-draft because it could possibly violate Stepien.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Le sigh

    I guess I wasn't clear. Im suggesting trading Denver something like a future 2nd and Harkless for our own 2016 pick. Basically reacquiring our 1st in full. It's not too valuable to Denver since our pick is likely gonna end up as 2 second round picks down the road.

    Once you get that pick back you send it over in the package for Cousins
     
  16. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'd say that would be the best case scenario. I usually steer closer to the mean in my predictions.

    So if you think I'm being overly negative, here's my thought process: In my view, everything right now boils down to whether or not Damian has another (significant) leap in the quality of his play (especially on defense) and whether or not any of the guys currently on the roster can turn into an All-Star caliber player. If the answer is "no" to either of those questions, then you can bring in all of the roleplayers you like via trade, but it still won't get this team any closer to a title.

    To quickly return to being a playoff team Neil would have to hit a home-run in the draft or somehow orchestrate a franchise defining trade. Either is possible, but I would say neither is probable.
     
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    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Drafting someone that's a home run is probably more likely and better suited for future moves too. It's easier to compete with a rookie performing beyond his contract for cap purposes, than to have three max guys with vet guys willing to come for cheap. And we don't have a LeBron or organization like the spurs to do those things.

    It sucks being a bottom of the barrel market and organization to free agents
     
  18. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    "Winning" <>"Trying to win."

    Just sayin'.
     
  19. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    And fans should root for them to win every game.
     
  20. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q87

    Teams are restricted from trading away future first round draft picks in consecutive years. This is known as the "Ted Stepien Rule." Stepien owned the Cavs from 1980-83, and made a series of bad trades (such as the 1982 trade mentioned above) that cost the Cavs several years' first round picks. As a result of Stepien's ineptitude, teams are now prevented from making trades which might leave them without a first round pick in consecutive future years.

    The Stepien rule applies only to future first round picks. For example, if this is the 2011-12 season, then a team can trade its 2012 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2011 pick, since their 2011 pick is no longer a future pick. But they can't trade away both their 2012 and 2013 picks, since both are future picks. Teams sometimes work around this rule by trading first round picks in alternate years, or by giving one team the right to swap picks with the other.
     

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