It appears our best option to land an all-star caliber wing player is to draft Ben Simmons. He is projected to go #2 and sounds like a much better version of Batum. If we land the #1 pick, trade it for the #2 pick and a player or second first round pick. If we win too many games and do not land the #1 or #2 pick, it would imply some of our guys have developed nicely. This also implies we have more assets to trade to move up in the draft to get Simmons. So we will have either the number 1 or 2 pick, or, have developed enough players to move up in the daft to land Simmons. A win-win plan.
Ummmm yes I know Denny. that still has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. The pick in 2012 is already traded buy protected. If we get to keep the pick in 2012 because we miss the playoffs, if we were to trade it before picking a player. Theoretically we would be violating the Stepein rule because 2012 and 2013 were both traded before we made either pick. Which is why I said technically we can move our 2012 pick, just not until after we draft a player with it (loophole being we draft a player for another team)
I really like Ingram in the draft this year, kid looks like Durants baby brother. With how bad we're going to be this year (25-30 wins), we'll have a real shot at landing him, adding a potentially elite wing scorer with Dame and hopefully a developed Vonleh inside. Could be a good core looking forward. I think this year we "tank" in the sense that we just play what we have, play hard and don't hand guys minutes just because they're young, but we're gonna struggle to win in the west. To further along the aquiring of potential through the draft I'd try and pull something like Plumlee + Connaugton and pieces to Boston for Brooklyns 2016 pick, Plumlee would pair nicely with Sullinger/Olynyk and rumor was they liked Pat. Brooklyns gonna be a lotto team this year, and to further that along I'd offer them some 2nd rounders to take Joe Johnson off their hands, giving them luxury tax relief and a big trade exception. Turn around and buyout Johnsons contract, and we preserve our own tanking while setting up the acquired pick to be even better.
Yeah. An all star wing player, that's exactly what we need..... and we can't sign one through free agency, so all we need to is hire one through Labor Ready!
That would violate the stepein rule. Becausethe draft hasn't happened yet so technically you'd be out two first rounders in a row. The way to circumvent that is as I've said. Make the pick for the team, make the trade after the draft.
It's not considered trading away two FUTURE picks if one is for this current season. The current season pick is not a future one. That's how the FAQ reads. It doesn't say anything about having to pick first. There are ramifications for trading the pick vs. trading the picked player, too. The pick costs $0 for cap balance.
http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2013/12/trading-future-draft.html The Stepien rule, named after former Cavs owner Ted Stepien, was established so that franchises couldn’t trade away all their future first-round picks. Even teams like the Knicks, Nets, and Lakers, who are more willing than most clubs to part with draft picks, can only trade first-rounders for every other season. For instance, Brooklyn has traded away its 2014, 2016, and 2018 first-rounders — since the team isn’t allowed to give up back-to-back future first-round picks, that means the 2015 and 2017 picks can’t be offered up in deals, but the 2020 pick can. Of course, in spite of the Stepien rule, a team could still end up without a first-round pick on an annual basis, since the rule only applies to future first-rounders. So a team like Toronto, which traded away its 2013 first-round pick, is now free to move its 2014 first-rounder, if it so chooses. In other words, a team can give up back-to-back first-round picks if the first of those two drafts has already passed.
No. Read it again. The 2011 pick doesn't matter because it had already been made when the 2011-2012 season was happening. Then it specifically states that you cannot trade the 2012 pick if you've already traded the 2013 pick. The 2012 pick would be for the current season
Read section 6793.1.23 1a where it clearly states that popcorn should not be allowed to pop in a microwave.
You don't have to wait for the draft to trade this year's pick. It is not a future pick. So you can trade 2012 and 2014 in 2012, then in 2013 trade your 2013 pick. It makes no difference to the league if you draft for someone else or just trade the pick. For CBA purposes, the pick costs $0 for trade/cap ballast, but the drafted player's salary DOES count.
Now, back to the regularly scheduled program ....... Stages of Team development (IMO): 1. Player and Asset gathering (i.e. Drafting, Signing FA's) 2. Identify and obtain core starting players, secure long term contracts for these only 3. Identify and obtain reserve / bench players only after Step 2 4. Win We are only on step 1. We have to gather (more and) better assets by drafting them or signing them and then possibly trading them to get to step #2. You gotta have more chips in your pile in order to raise the bet!
No you can't. You can't trade your future 2013 pick (future because the draft has not occurred yet even of it's the 2012-2013 season) when you've already dealt your 2014 pick.
