<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cavsrules @ Jan 6 2007, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That doesn't mean there better then ever team in the NBA.Dallas is a great team and will be for time to come. The West is getting harder ever year with teams getting better. I don't see the Mavs going all the way, nor going to the finals.When it comes to Mavs or Spurs, I'll take the Spurs. There just a better team IMO.</div>What else do the mavs have to prove to show they're better than the spurs? They beat them last year and this year they beat them twice on the road. This time it was on a second night of a back-to-back. The first loss was because the mavs were playing like crap at the beginning of the year. The spurs have no answer for Dirk and their small ball is pathetic. The mavs have badly outplayed the spurs for the last month and a half.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jan 6 2007, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Regular season means jack. Don't the Mavericks previous seasons prove that to you?</div>Haha you get more entertaining everytime you defend the spurs. They are getting old. 2 years ago the mavs weren't as good as the spurs. Last year the mavs caught up to the spurs. Now the mavs are better than the spurs. The spurs lack rebounding and somebody that can guard Dirk. Those weaknesses aren't just going to disappear. Finley has really regressed this year and is much worse than last year. The spurs will lose to the suns in the second round.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Haha you get more entertaining everytime you defend the spurs.</div>Right because your points have been so on. Like when you mentioned Rasho and Nazr as key players when they weren't even a factor in the series. Get off your high horse. You don't even acknowledge my points. And this latest post where you basically disregard what I said about the regular season.If your going to base how good a team is over another based on regular season records. Then the Mavs should be a championship team already. But are they no, so don't bother tooting your horn about these wins. There great wins but their not a gauge when it comes to playoffs. It's a new season when they began. I find it so ridiculous how easy you think it is to beat the Spurs. Do you know how competitive that game was and how close it was? Or do you just look at the end of the box score and say yep easy win.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jan 6 2007, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Right because your points have been so on. Like when you mentioned Rasho and Nazr as key players when they weren't even a factor in the series. Get off your high horse. You don't even acknowledge my points. And this latest post where you basically disregard what I said about the regular season.If your going to base how good a team is over another based on regular season records. Then the Mavs should be a championship team already. But are they no, so don't bother tooting your horn about these wins. There great wins but their not a gauge when it comes to playoffs. It's a new season when they began. I find it so ridiculous how easy you think it is to beat the Spurs. Do you know how competitive that game was and how close it was? Or do you just look at the end of the box score and say yep easy win.</div>Did I say it was easy to beat the spurs? I feel the mavs are the better team now. I expect the games to be close but in a series I pick the mavs in 6. The mavs of the past were fatally flawed with a gimmick defense that once teams saw it enough that they were able to break it down. This years mavs are the best mavs team yet and I expect them to knock off the spurs. The mavs were fatigued from a game the night before. Amazing that they were able to beat the spurs despite being fatigued. With the dropoff Finley and Horry have had I doubt they are going to have as much success going small as they did last year. (If you call losing in 7 success) I just call it like I see it. The suns will be the mavs biggest hurdle this year. The spurs like many other teams will be tough in the playoffs but in the end I see the mavs or the suns getting through.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Did I say it was easy to beat the spurs?</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The mavs have badly outplayed the spurs for the last month and a half.</div> Badly outplayed? That sounds like were killing the Spurs and saying it's easy. Yet none of that has happened. It's just like the meetings from last year. Unlike you I'm not holding my stock in the regular season games. Because as I pointed out from past seasons, they hold no water in the playoffs. And just because were a better team this year, I'm supposed to think we got it. Hell no mavsfan, you can think we got this championship this year. But I won't think that until we actually win it. If Mavs pass the Spurs this year again in the playoffs. They have safely passed them, but I'm not going to say that now after a tight playoff matchup which could have gone either way and this year's regular season. That's just naive and writing off the Spurs. And that's why I believe were even right now.
If things go as they should the mavs should win in 6. Wilder things have happened but I am going with what should happen. Badly outplaying implies the mavs record is much better the last month and a half than the spurs. I disagree that the regular season doesn't mean much. The spurs have been the best regular season team for many years and they won 3 championships to go with that great regular season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree that the regular season doesn't mean much.</div>When it comes down to matchups, they don't mean sh*t. Mavs sweeped Heat 2 seasons in a row and lost to them in the Finals. Mavs had a 3-1 regular season record against the Kings and lost. Mavs went 2-2 with Spurs and lost. Regular season records mean nothing in determining how good a team is over another.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If things go as they should the mavs should win in 6. Wilder things have happened but I am going with what should happen</div>You tried to put that out as an opinion but that came off so much as you trying to state it as a fact, I laughed. You say they should win in 6 but if they don't, sh*t happened. Great.
Yeah Dallas one of the best teams in the NBA but spurs are better IMO,Spurs and the suns best teams in the nba
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jan 6 2007, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When it comes down to matchups, they don't mean sh*t. Mavs sweeped Heat 2 seasons in a row and lost to them in the Finals. Mavs had a 3-1 regular season record against the Kings and lost. Mavs went 2-2 with Spurs and lost. Regular season records mean nothing in determining how good a team is over another.You tried to put that out as an opinion but that came off so much as you trying to state it as a fact, I laughed. You say they should win in 6 but if they don't, sh*t happened. Great.</div>If you're looking for a guarantee that will never happen but I say the odds are in the favor of the mavs. You can believe what you want. The Heat were the exception but yeah sh*t does happen. Stern happened.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jan 6 2007, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What else do the mavs have to prove to show they're better than the spurs? They beat them last year and this year they beat them twice on the road. This time it was on a second night of a back-to-back. The first loss was because the mavs were playing like crap at the beginning of the year. The spurs have no answer for Dirk and their small ball is pathetic. The mavs have badly outplayed the spurs for the last month and a half.</div>I wouldn't say the Spurs don't have a answer for Dirk...There is a guy called Tim Duncan on the Spurs that can play some great D. Dirk just knows to go far out and nail that J where most big men don't go.I like Dallas, I really do. I just think the Spurs are a better ball club.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If you're looking for a guarantee that will never happen but I say the odds are in the favor of the mavs.</div>I'm not looking for a guarantee. My years as a Mavs fans has taught me not to. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah Dallas one of the best teams in the NBA but spurs are better IMO,Spurs and the suns best teams in the nba</div>Me and mavsfan just posted long ass posts and that's all you had to add. :243399001161179404: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I wouldn't say the Spurs don't have a answer for Dirk...There is a guy called Tim Duncan on the Spurs that can play some great D</div>I thought you were going to say no one can stop Duncan. But there's a good reason why Spurs won't stick Dirk on Duncan. Duncan doesn't have the foot speed to stay with Dirk on the perimeter or on the block imo. On Duncan, Avery got him good last night. Supposedly he was yelling "Double, Double!," during the 2nd half every time Duncan touched the ball. A double was never sent and Duncan kept expecting a double team. Seemed to have thrown him off and he kept giving it up. For his strong play in the 1st half, he messed up.
The Spurs and Mavs are the best two teams in the league...and that's the bottom line. Sorry Suns, you gotta beat these two teams in the playoff, mostly in the WCF, to be considered that to me. The Spurs and Mavs are just more complete than the Suns.The Mavs are better RIGHT NOW, this season, than the Spurs...but I wouldn't go so far as to say they have comfortably passed the Spurs permantly.I think the Mavs winning that 7 game series last year, on the road, and their success, not only against the Spurs(2-1, both wins IN S.A.), but also thier 27-3 record since starting 0-4, just proves that they are the better overall team right now.But with SA, they have the experience, and TD, and POP, and the swagger of a champ...so their not going away.
I think we are at the point where we could say that the teams are about even, but the Mavs have the upper hand right now. We won in the playoffs last season and just won on their court. Now it's the Spurs turn to call, fold, or raise.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Grass @ Jan 6 2007, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah Dallas one of the best teams in the NBA but spurs are better IMO,Spurs and the suns best teams in the nba</div>Wow, I don't know if your dumb or just ignorant.
^No he, like most non Mav fans, just doesn't like the Mavs...and he's probably a Suns fan to boot...so theres' the reason for the Suns part.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Saint Baller @ Jan 6 2007, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, I don't know if your dumb or just ignorant.</div>So your saying the Suns and Spurs are not any good?
^I'm not sure, but I think Saint Baller was wondering how that guy could make it seem like it was so obvious that SA and PHX were better.Nothing this season has proved that either of those teams is better than the Mavs, and the Mavs have done some things to prove they are. Beating both SA and PHX twice(giving them a 4-1 record over those 2 so far), and what they did last season in the playoffs so how good the Mavs are.You might be able to say all three are the best, but puttin either of those teams above the Mavs at this point is a little off the wall to me.
I'm not sure actually. The reason is because the spurs defense just doesn't' seem like it used to be. Duncan always had a big man along side who could swat. Robinson/Nesterovic etc. Now they only have on legitmate shotblocker. Duncan. And it's hurting their defense. I noticed this when they played the lakers. That's the big thing the spurs had on other teams. The team was almost perfect defensively. They had dual shotblockers and the best perimeter defender in the nba. Their defense doesn't seem daunting like it used to be and as a result, statistically their defense is falling each year.So really, if they faced off in a series it'd come down to offensive execution. Dallas run an offense which just seems unorganised, it's almost as if they are playing at their local ymca (now don't attack me, that's what it looks like).
They run an Iso offense, with pick and rolls and screens and such. The don't run a fast tempo, or grind them out type game...it's really not unorganized except during a fast break, of course.
