With second round picks I think it is kind of simple...these guys do not have well-rounded games, that is why they aren't first round picks. Does he have a translatable skill? Yes. He can shoot the ball and he's aggressive attacking the basket. Thinking Pat is going to come in and even be average at everything is extremely overrating the impact of a second rounder. The guy has a skill that can potentially translate to the NBA level. Let's let him develop the rest of his game before we go demanding too much. He's going to get spot minutes this year--if he is lucky and hopefully in the mean time he can spend time improving the rest of his game so in a year or two he is well-rounded enough to play minutes at the NBA level. 2nd rounders that have immediate impacts are usually players with first-round talent that had off-court issues or concerns that dropped them to the second round. Pat was not one of those guys.
Young Sasha had exactly one season with a PER above 9. I'm hoping for better than that from Project Pat.
Let young Pat play with Lebron and see how much he even touches the ball. Sasha had a good motor. Consumate role player with the Cavs. I see a similarity. Effort on defense, decent jump shot. Get you a rebound when you need one. Overselling PC is going to happen, but he's a 2nd round project so far.
Pavlovic's best season was with Lebron--the finals season of 2007. It's not as though Pavlovic's usage rate was his issue; it was his ability to contribute in any way other than shooting, and he didn't really do that all that well either (TS% over .45 only once--in 2007). I'm not saying that Project Pat is going to be an all-star, but it's OK to admit that Sasha one-nearly-average-season Pavlovic was a really low standard to set for him.
Before he ever came to the Blazers Matthews was a starter for Jerry Sloan.... Nobody laughed here because we lost Roy...
Disagree... I bet if we back up to the archives, you will see major complaints about his contract and why didn't we get a decent starter
There were some saying we need to replace Matthews for years. Though I don't recall anyone laughing or making fun. We always knew he was a WAY better defensively than Roy. We also knew that you had to be a HARD worker to go undrafted and become a starter for Sloan. Please don't EVER compare Pat "No D" Conaghwhatever to The Iron Man. BLASPHEMER!!!
Pat's gonna have to become a dead eye 3 point shooter to stick in the NBA. His athleticism is overrated.
I'm pretty sure I was on O-Live at the time so you may be right. Bottom line "Project" Pat should never be compared to Wesley. Wesley Matthews was always a defensive player first and a shooter second. Pat is the opposite.
Well, I never said project pat was compared defensively to Matthews. I am comparing how he was a very "underdog" player. That is very similar
No one would be talking about Pat if he were simply an invintee and not a draft pick. Are there any threads about Malcolm Thomas? He's looked much better than Pat.
Pat is one of those guy that used to practice his vertical leap. He isn't quick of foot enough to not get abused on defense even if he does block a shot or sky for a rebound. Malcolm Thomas has looked great!
You would be correct. Before the Jazz declined to match there were only a few of us in Wes' corner and that was as a back up to Roy. But it was still worth the money. And it did not help that Wes started out slow with the Blazers. He never did play well off the bench, or as a starter playing with the 2nd unit. He excelled as a starter, playing with other starters. He never had the handles or the passing ability to be the guy with the 2nd unit. Maybe Pat will turn out that way too.
I think Sasha's claim to fame is that he started some games in the playoffs next to Lebron. He always looked like a russian you couldn't trust.
Looks like my "Project Pat" nickname is sticking! After coining "Nards" I'm thinking I might have a knack for this... For diez I'm thinking "hairy spainish dude"
