When trying to justify the decision to go with Drew & Ryan as opposed to Refsnyder Girardi had this to say.... " You look at Stephen Drew & what he's done in June, (battered 230) and July though he hasn't played much his numbers are good." Really Joe? he's 4 for 22 in July (182) & this to you is good? And is currently in a 4 for 33 fall. That's a 121 batting average over that time. Yeah Joe we really need his bat in the lineup. As far as Brendan Ryan he just said that Ryan has to ability to provide excellent defense at 3 positions.
I can understand Ryan, but Drew has to go... I don't care he he's traded for a bag of useless golf balls.... he has to go... Hell, I'd find better use from a pile of dog crap than Drew... Let Refsnyder play!
...having defensive backups for late inning replacements is understandable when you're leading but 1. you don't need 2 of them 2. when you're behind in the latter inning defense is not as important when you need offensive players that can hit better than .200.
...^^^don't know that it will happen but I still think Zobrist makes a lot of sense on different levels.
You can fail with guys with big league experience, you cannot with unproven players, no matter the situation.. Very few coaches/ gm's have had the balls to go against the grain
...how many of those coaches had a 2Bman hitting .181 at this point in the season? ..."big league experience" has nothing to do with it...Drew, Ryan, and Jones are lucky to be drawing a paycheck at all. ...the only "unproven" player is Drew and replacing him does not take much "balls" at all...it's common sense.
I just don't get you at all, there are many cases where common sense does not apply. Drew is unproven, did he not win with the sox, you talking about his position?
...and yes, Drew is "unproven" since coming to NY...well, he has at least "proven" that he can't hit his weight (.171) over the course of nearly a full season. (520 ABs)...and exactly what does his anomalous season with the Sox have to do with how he's played since? ...and there are more cases where common sense does makes sense. Can you give a reason why Drew should not be replaced? ...and you "don't get me"?... wtf does that mean?...you think I'm the only one who thinks Drew needs to go?
I don't know who made the decision to send Ref down and keep Drew but I'd guess it came from above Field Level. And I like many others would like to see Drew gone, ditto Ryan & Jones. Can't see them being traded, who wants Cashmans dirty laundry. So its DFA or minors. As far as Girardi goes I've supportd him since game 1 '08, and think he knows his team but I cannot figure some of the statements he makes about player performance. If I were Drew I'd be damned ashamed that I kept failing even though the manager had his back.
At this point you can't get rid of both Drew & Ryan. If you bring Refsnyder back up or even sign someone like Zobrist you're going to need one of the two guys (Drew/Ryan) as a back up.
...not if you bring Refsnyder back AND take on Zobrist or someone like him...and again, Jones' roster spot can be replaced too...I'd rather see what Judge can do. ...not saying any of this will happen, just spit balling. (no Baseball tonight)
I don't like Judge in for Jones because then you don't have a left handed bat off the bench. I think Judge should stay in AAA for the remainder of the year. I think he needs it in terms of his development. He hasn't exactly flashed the power in AAA yet that he did in AA. I like his progress and I don't see any reason to throw him into a pennant race and limit his ABs.
I surmise Cashman & Girardi are in the majority when it comes to baseball's unwritten decision about roster moves. Some people on this board accept it and cannot understand why others differ with their blind acceptance. Questioning Yankee decisions becomes tiresome to these people. 'Big league experience' is a cliche for years in majors, and has nothing to do with their worth as viable roster players. DEADWOOD IS just that and these Yankees are carrying a few. And yet, for some reason, Girardi & Cashman are compelled to keep informing Yankee fans (or anyone) that Drew, Ryan, Jones have 'valuable worth'. Really? How foolhardy can they be?
...well, when you're talking about a "left handed bat off the bench" you don't really have one in Jones either...Jones has been mostly platoon vs RHed pitching where he should have an edge but he's just not any good vs RHed pitching either. (.239 .277 .389 .667) ...and don't forget Beltran just got back and he's a switch hitter, as is Zobrist. ...and Judge as well as other will likely be September call ups anyway, so what's the difference?...another 30 games or so?...SWB's season will be over the first week of September so his minor league "development" would stop then anyway. Besides, Judge is a better defender than Jones and I'd think just as good if not better with a bat. Judge has also said time he with the Yanx earlier really helped jim and the advice he was given by Beltran, ARod, and others was invaluable...he may end up being a 1Bman anyway. ...again, I'm bored and I'm not saying all or any of this will happen...like i said, "just spit balling".
Sorry 59 that I don't articulate myself enough for you to comprehend, but cagedlion articulated what I have been tellin you in a more articulate way, and btw where in any post do I support. Drew and Ryan in line up?
...uhh no...you got it wrong again...caged lion is not echoing what you claim is your point. ...what exactly is your point anyway?...do you even have one? ...is this the part where you start deleting your own posts ?
