Luis Severino

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  1. totus44

    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    CC gets to pitch tonight.
     
  2. mrmel29

    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

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    I've been calling for severino to be up here for weeks now but yanks won't do it because it will force their call on cc which they don't want to make yet. With pineda on the dl now and nova with some arm discomfort this is the yanks chance to get this kid up here to be our stottlemyre from the 60's run. CC tonight in 200 degree texas should be cringe inducing to say the least.
     
  3. Messiah717

    Messiah717 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    It doesn't force anything on CC. Pineda is going to the DL for atleast a month. They need an arm unless Warren will get his starts.
     
  4. cagedlion

    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    I've watched Severino this summer. Yankee
    management have coddled this guy at AAA
    ..........he hasn't pitched longer than 6 innings
    in any of his starts. I'm sure they had him on
    a pitch count in each of his starts. He has been
    super in all his stints. He has moved very fast
    in the Yankee system. We shall see..................
     
  5. cagedlion

    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    It is amazing that this year's Yankee starters are all very
    tenuous...........not one stands out of late. Tanaka: could
    wind up on DL with the first ache in his arm;
    Pineda: already with forearm problems & on 15 day IR.....
    will be out at least one month; CC: a fading 'ace' never
    knowing how he'll pitch in each start, worst starter ERA on staff;
    Eovaldi: best starting record on team but he's gotten the best run
    support on the staff, over 4.50 ERA; Nova: has been laboring
    in recent games. NOT ONE 'LIGHTS OUT' STARTER.

    Team will miss Pineda dearly.
     
  6. Messiah717

    Messiah717 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Very fragile staff unfortunately. Pineda could be that first domino.
     
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    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    and now the media is chanting 'The Jays are a GO to
    take down the Yankees'..........wow. Media pushing
    for a Yankee take down. Last week these tabloids
    picked the O's to do the dirty deed. Now it's all about
    the team north of the border. How fragile are these
    media fly byes?
     
  8. blgridesagain

    blgridesagain team player

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    So which is it?....and I'm not trying to be funny:

    A) Trashman is a lousy poker player,

    B) an idiot,

    C) should have given up Judge and/or Severino for Cueto, Hamels, Price and any other possible "top player" on the market.

    D) all of the above
     
  9. Messiah717

    Messiah717 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I think the indictment is going to be that while others like the Royals, Astros and Jays made themselves much better. The Yankees decided to do nothing. I'm not saying you trade top prospects. But why waste pieces to pickup a useless 2B/RF when you need an arm?
     
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    blgridesagain team player

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    I wasn't happy to see Flores go in a trade/package which didn't bring back a "good" player. I think he's nice little player who could be something more if he comes along and picks up his hitting.
     
  11. totus44

    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    It also undermines the perceived value of Pirela and Refsynder.

    Cashman is the Drew of the GMs....shitty batting avg, defends his job well and hits an occasional HR. Also once had a promising career....but never made the A list.
     
  12. blgridesagain

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    "It also undermines the perceived value of Pirela and Refsynder".

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    I think you lost me on this one - I'm sure the rest of the ML teams already have a detailed scouting report and evaluation on both of them.

    Even I can chip in with an observation or two on them.
    I would like to see Refsnyder get a good look at 2b before crunch time in late August and September and, it's a fairly sound assessment to say he can be a .270-.300 hitter with mediocre power at best, not alot of speed and despite his consistent good hitting in AAA his defense and instincts are probably still weak enough to offset his hitting enough to prevent the Yanks from putting him regularly at 2b.

    Pirela is a free swinger, good speed, who needs alot of AT BATS at the ML level to get a better more true appreciation of what kind of "hitter" he is/ could be.




     
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    Hammerojustice Chief Caveman, Keeper of Thor's Hammer

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    I couldn't agree more... It's like stating that you have zero faith in Refsnyder & therefore his trade value is lower...
     
  14. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...^^^ exactly. And it should be a simple concept to grasp.


    ...instead of letting Pirela or Refsnyder play, Cashman gives up 2 young players for Ackley, who's yet another 2Bman who cannot hit a lick instead of calling up Refsnyder/Pirela.

    ...that doesn't exactly inspire a lot of encouragement for the players themselves and does not help their value to other teams either. I mean how can you use either of those players in trade negotiations with other teams when those same teams are fully aware that you don't even think enough of those players to let them play?

    ...the Yanx now have 3 freaking 2Bmen. And if the idea is to let either Drew or Ryan go, they both now have even less trade value than they did before...bot now this late in the trade deadline Cashman will have to bend over and take it in the ass once again in order to get rid of either of them.
     
  15. Rick2583

    Rick2583 Chairman of the board

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    If the Yankees are not going to give the kids a chance they should have just used one or two of them to make a good deal because I just don't get this.
     

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