What to do with Leonard before Oct. 31?

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What do you do with Leonard's extension

  1. Give him one for less than his $7.6M/yr projected cap hold

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  2. Give him one for more than his $7.6M/yr projected cap hold

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    52.8%

  3. Nothing now. $4.1M QO during next summer's FA period to be RFA, come what may

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  4. Look to see market value for trades/picks because of our young depth

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    2.8%

  5. Other?

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    2.8%
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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Zach Lowe:
    http://grantland.com/the-triangle/welcome-to-extensionville-the-nbas-next-big-money-community/

     
    illmatic99, Aug 4, 2015
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    and upgrading his defense from “completely clueless” to “apparently aware that a game is happening.+

    Hahahahahaha!
     
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    Enes. Kanter.
    Is he a MAX player? No. Did we offer him a MAX contract? Yes. Why? To screw with OKC.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    As much of sieve as Kanter is on defense, the guy was a putting up 19/11 as a starter. Leonard has yet to show he's even remotely capable of that kind of production (and it's not like people are going to snatch him up for his stellar defense at this point).
     
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    Meyers isn't just a shooter; he has athleticism on dunks and can rebound. But he's the only NBA player in history to shoot 51/42/93. Kanter rates below replacement level by RPM. There will be far more teams with cap room next summer and nobody to spend it on. Meyers getting a max contract is a very real possibility if he just displays small improvements.
     
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    Not that he will actually hit this, but his per/36 numbers from last year were 14 pts and 15 reb. Only time will tell what he can actually produce in more minutes, but there is a basis to believe.
     
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    I think there's a very decent chance that Meyers will "replicate" what Enes has done - put up good stats on a lottery team - now that he's likely to be a starter (or at the very least a key reserve). Maybe he won't hit 19/11, but I suspect that the defense he plays (that Kanter doesn't) will make up for coming up short a couple points and rebounds.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I would be happy with him getting a double double efficiently.
     
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    Wow. Talk about peaking at the right time. If Beibs proves he can be a decent starter than he's going to get paid. Def can see the Blazers matching if he puts up decent numbers.
     
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    Leonard's third year as compared with Kanter's. PER's are similar (EK 15.6, ML 14.8), but Kanter's usage rate was much higher, ant Leonard's WS, WS/48, BPM, and VORP are all vastly superior. With the likely assumption that Leonard will be getting consistent minutes all year, it's a decent bet that he will be able to put up counting stats that will induce offers upwards of $15M/year.

    However, that being the case, if I'm Leonard's agent, why would I let him sign an extension? He's likely much better off gambling on himself.
     
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    not to hijack but is there a single source where win shares, vorp, per and such are explained and their significance and also a single source of the data for comparison. I feel ignorant often enough but much more so when I can't even speak the language and can't formulate my own opinion. thank you
     
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    Basketball reference gives some explanation of the advanced stats, but I'm not sure if it's enough for what you're seeking.
     
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    Basketball reference
     
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    So far Leonard hasn't accomplished anything that would earn him a max deal to this point. It may be a smart move to give him a 3 year 23 mil extension with a team option 3rd year just in case and avoid matching a max deal if he does make a huge leap this season. Otherwise I could see playing out his contract and seeing what the market dictates..could be the last chance to lock him up for a reasonable deal beforehand.
     
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    unless he totally craters this year he is gonna get huge money next offseason

    i doubt he takes 4/40 before 0ct0ber 31
     
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    9 mil sound good. if he blows up then that is a big value
     
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