All Time Players You Would Never Want On Your Team?

Raymond Felton: All time player?

I know its just a thread title, but I get a laugh seeing people list him as an "all time player".

 

Joe Kline
Jon Koncak
Shawn Bradley
Will Perdue
Chris Mihm

 

It makes no sense to list players I wouldn't want on my Blazers who aren't "all time players". Otherwise the list would be 7.3 billion people long, starting with me.

 

There are few great (aka star) players I'd reject. Shaq and Kobe rub me wrong. I never wanted Iverson. Can't stand Garnett but I'd take him in his prime. Harden is a hell no. Don't want Westbrook polluting my beloved Blazers. Carmelo no. Can't think of anyone else at the moment who is "all time" in my mind. Mini Mouse is my all time least favorite Blazer, if that counts.

 

Couldn't agree more. It wasn't just that he was a terrible defender whose style of play at the PG position made a range of other really good players less good (at a time when we had a lot of really good players). It's that he got paid so much ($99m back when that was remarkable) and lasted so long (8 seasons!) and was so damned healthy (we never saw what those teams could do with somebody else at the helm) and was so insufferable (his sob sessions with Jason Quick were legion). God damn I hated him.

I've never hated somebody on another team as much as I hated The Mouse. I always had the option of skipping Kobe Bryant or Shaq games. Stoudamire was the de facto face of my franchise (completely undeservedly). I was forced to put up with Damon's bullshit for 8 years on a nightly basis. I'll never stop hating him for that.

 

My list of least liked players consists mostly of players who thought they were way better than they really were, and ball hogging shoot first PGs, along with a few guys who are just totally clueless assholes.

Michael Olowakandi - the guy was considered a huge bust, yet still had the nerve to demand a max. contract after his rookie deal was up. In one of the few smart moves Elgin Baylor ever made as a GM, he let him walk for nothing - and get the better end of that deal. MIN signed him for less than his rookie deal, and they still regretted it.

Antoine Walker - when you're a power forward and you lead the league in FGA but shoot less than 40% from the field, you're killing your team. In his "prime" Walker had two years in a row where he attempted over 1500 field goals with FG% less than .400 (.394 FG% on 1689 FGA in 2001-02 and .388 FG% in 1554 FGA in 2002-03). Walker inexplicably made the all star team in both of those seasons (since when is a PER = 14.6 all star worthy???). And the worst part is that on the rare occasions Walker actually made a shot, he was too busy doing that stupid shimmy bullshit to be bothered to get back on defense.

Carmelo Anthony - it's bad enough he's a ball movement killing black hole, but the whole Melo Drama bit leading up to the trade deadline in 2011 basically had this prima donna holding two franchises hostage for most of the season. The guy is a great scorer, but it doesn't seem possible to build a winner around a guy who dominates the ball so much.

Latrell Sprewell - choking your coach becuase he told you to "put a little mustard on your passes", turning down a 3 year $27 million contract at the tail end of your career because it's not enough to feed your kids - and then getting a restraining order barring you from seeing those kids - are just a few of Sprewell's boneheaded moves. He had talent, but he was an incredible asshole. Runner up - Kobe Bryant 1: Laker, 2: Rapist, 3. Arrogant, abrasive attitude that has made it impossible for the winningest franchise in league history to attract top quality free agents. That's three strikes right there. The fact that the Clippers have become the destination of choice for free agents in Los Angeles speaks volumes for how much other players hate Kobe. Just ask Shaq and Karl Malone how much they liked having Kobe as a teammate.

With so many shoot first, ball hog PGs to choose from (Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis, Russell Westbrook, etc.), it was hard to choose just one, but it would have to be Gilbert Arenas. Agent Zero IQ had a shit ton of talent, but pulling a gun, on a teammate in the locker room has to be the definition of a locker room cancer. Threatening to cap a teammate is the ultimate chemistry killer. Runner up goes to Delonte West - boning your superstar teammate's mom during the playoffs is also a real chemistry killer.

BNM

 

I didn't read that to mean "All Time Greats," just anybody who has ever played in the NBA...

 

Seriously? I'm the only one who can't stand MATT BARNES?!

 

The real dog days are when the season starts and we get fisted night after night.

 

LaMarcus Aldridge.

He's too much of a Spur to ever wear the Scarlet and Black.

 

BNM, I had forgotten all about Kandi Man!

Which I guess tells you a lot about how forgettable he was.

 

While active players, Barkley and Dominique Wilkins had reputations of selfishness. (Barkley was disliked by star teammates on all 3 of his teams.) After retiring, the media has annointed them as good guys. To a lesser degree (selfish but only a little detrimental to the team), the same goes for Chamberlain and Maravich. The media rewrites history into a grade achool level, in which each historical figure was either all good or all bad.

 

Markieff Morris. The only 'kieff I want is the stuff that goes in a bowl......

 

Carmelo.

Anthony.

 

Bruce Jenner. He was an all time great. He was drafted into the NBA in like the 10th round as the "best available athlete" - I kid you not.

 

You mean Kaitlyn? Who's Bruce?