As silly as it may seem, trading Leonard is (nearly) completely off the table for me - especially if we're acquiring Boogie. I'm far more hyped on Leonard than CJ. I think a Leonard/Boogie front court would be amazing. And then I want Vonleh to be the primary back-up. So if I'm making the trade I'm holding out Dame, Leonard, and Vonleh.
I agree but I suspect Sac will want either Leonard or Vonleh for boogie. That's the piece I believe they think they could grow with. It's gonna take either one of those players to make a deal if it's ever available.
Why do we want a center who shoots the same percentage as Aldridge did, despite playing significantly closer to the rim? In fact, despite shooting (by far) the most long 2-point jumpshots in the league, Aldridge still had a higher 2-point percentage than Boogie. What exactly makes Boogie so great?
I am anxious to see CJ and Dame play together. I want to know how beneficial it is to have someone like CJ, who can handle the ball well for a "SG", playing along side of Dame. On the flip side, how bad will the duo really be on defense playing together? What I want answered......is teaming Dame up with someone like McLemore really a better option when all things are considered? Or are we better off with CJ and Dame?
Boogie is a multidimensional player - unlike LMA who only scored inefficiently. Boogie can defend, pass, dribble, and rebound (without someone else doing the dirty work). Also, I suspect that his FG% will go up once he plays with other legit NBA players.
That's a good question. Right now, I think CJ is better than McLemore, but McLemore has a much much higher upside and size. Basically, if McLemore could eventually let the game come to him, he has the size and ability to be a top 5 SG in the league. It will take some years, but the ceiling is high. For CJ, I think he's better at creating his shot and distributing than McLemore. I think they are both very similar efficient shooters, but McLemore can learn to use his size and have the ability to post up and defend true 2's
Like with LMA, Boogie would work best as a 2nd option (or even 3rd) I think he would be OK with that if it was Dame as the #1. It's nice to have a big to throw it down low to, but it also nice to have them in position to clean up missed shots by your #1 option. Some of the video I saw of Boogie he looked great underneath the basket, but at the same time looked like he wanted to be a stretch 4. Which is what I bet they try him as next to Willey Calley-Stein this season.
Ed Davis does all of that, while shooting 60% from the field as compared to Boogie's 46%, and without being a massive ballhog (Cousins had the third highest usage rate in the league last year).
That's like saying Goran Dragic is shooting a higher FG% than Westbrook without being a ballhog like Wesbrook.
Yeah, not really. They play a completely different style of game, because Westbrook is infinitely more athletic than Dragic. They're not really comparable. Ed Davis and Demarcus Cousins are both 6'11" big men who rebound, block shots, and play close to the rim. So my question is, what is it that Cousins does so much better than Davis that makes him worth trading 3-5 players for, and paying $8M more per year? Shoot more often?
Very good point. The roll of the dice with Cousins is he's contentious and demanding. The upside is he's a beast. Davis is a solid, high character guy. I'm looking forward to seeing what Davis brings to the team.
Ed Davis vs Cousins is a laughable comparison. Please stay in the realm of reality here. That's like comparing Kobe (prime) to Matthews (without injury)
Not to be snarky, but...duh? Cousins is a GREAT player on a TERRIBLE team - of course he's going to have one of the highest usage rates in the league. Comparing him to Davis IS quite similar to comparing Dragic to Westbrook...except that Dragic is actually very good (is Davis?). Also, I haven't looked at shooting stats in a while, but I suspect that perhaps last year was a down year for him? Because I'm fairly certain that in years past he shot a better percentage than LMA from LMA's "bread'n'butter" range.
I'm sure it's only a matter of time before boogie finds his three point shot. It's the thing to do in today's NBA.
Not trolling, just challenging the all-completeness of the conventional wisdom. Cousins looks the part, and has great counting stats, but the advanced stats don't necessarily indicate that he makes a team better. With all his size, skill, athleticism, etc., he's never shot better than 50% from the field for a season, and only better than 47% once. So again, I'm not disputing that he brings more to the table than Davis or Plumlee. What I'm asking is, is the differential between Cousins and Davis great enough to the team as a whole as to be worth 5 other players, and if so, why?
Still didn't list a thing... So what, he stood around while 6 people faught over the ball after Gay drove with no where to go. if someone is so bad offensively that he only decides to dunk he'll shoot 99%. If someone is a great offensive player on a bad team, he might shoot 46% while being the defenses main focus. Doesn't make the 99% shooter comparable.
Bro, if he's as valuable as you say he is, teams would be offering the Kings their house. The Lakers, one of the shittiest run organizations as of late, wouldn't even part with their pick, the PF that hadn't even played a single game in the regular season and an old has been player. The value you give Boogie (wanting to trade Vonleh, Leonard and CJ) is at the level as a class a superstar. You are mortgaging 3 of our most "potential players", for one that other teams won't even give their draft pick for. Boogie has the talent to be a top 5 player but he's a mental midget. Did you see him call out his coaches on Twitter? Do I really have to give you any evidence at all? Okay fine... My evidence is "the kid hasn't been traded". If he's as good as you say he is, teams would be chomping at the bit to give them the farm for him. I'm talking Shaq type consideration, since the league lacks that type of dominant player.
