Politics What sides of Political fence do you sit on?

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What side(s) of Political Fence do you sit on?

Poll closed Aug 30, 2015.

  1. Liberal on social views, Liberal on economic views

    11 vote(s)
    50.0%

  2. Conservative on social views, Conservative on economic views

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  3. Liberal on Social views, Conservative on economic views

    7 vote(s)
    31.8%

  4. Conservative on Social views, Liberal on economic views

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    0.0%

  5. ANARCHY!

    1 vote(s)
    4.5%
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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Voting for an awful person because of their gender?

    Not good.

    Why not look for a Glenda the Good instead of pushing the Wicked Witch of the West on us?
     
    Denny Crane, Aug 16, 2015
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    I would not vote for "an awful person" because of her gender. Sarah Palin, among others, would never get my vote. I was saying that I really am getting tired of 50% of the population excluded from high office, however.

    I was talking about lesser evil for decades. Like I said, I agree. Also agree that in California and Oregon it's not really an issue. But give credit where credit is due, unlike, say, Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton (who is not "done", she's heard that for 20 years at least!) had been an advocate for women's rights.
     
    crandc, Aug 16, 2015
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  3. MarAzul

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    Let's work together and vote for a lady. I'll vote for Carly how about you?
     
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  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I vote for not evil, not lesser.

    Hillary is done. Biden is going to beat her for the nomination if the old nut job Sanders doesn't.

    Her "record" is just awful. As Secy of State, the stability of much of the world declined. She left it much worse off than when she started.

    What else can she run on, if not her awful record?

    Maybe she'll be indicted by election time, either way.
     
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  5. GriLtCheeZ

    GriLtCheeZ "Well, I'm not lookin' for trouble."

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    Why do you think Bernie is a nut?
     
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  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Everything is a conspiracy. Congress, even Democrats, won't pass much of what he'd want to do.
     
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  7. GriLtCheeZ

    GriLtCheeZ "Well, I'm not lookin' for trouble."

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    That is nonsense. He'd definitely have a hard time passing anything. Gridlock! You should be all in Denny.
     
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  8. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Google bernie sanders koch.

    Pages of conspiracy theory links originated by Sanders.

    Similar blather about banks and oil companies, etc.

    He's got the same border/immigration policy as Trump, who is equally nuts.

    Sanders' economic statements are just mind numbingly idiotic, and apparently he believes the drivel that spews from his mouth. He's got a populist appeal, granted, but there isn't enough money in the world to pay for his plans.
     
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  9. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Weirdly, I did not find any of those. I did see where he accused the Koch brothers of being libertarians, though. That's a low blow, for sure.

    You (or I, or someone) could say that about any of the candidates. Let's try a few:

    Rand Paul's economic statements are just mind numbingly idiotic, and apparently he believes the drivel that spews from his mouth.
    Trump's economic statements are just mind numbingly idiotic, and apparently he believes the drivel that spews from his mouth.
    Ben Carson's economic statements are just mind numbingly idiotic, and apparently he believes the drivel that spews from his mouth.
    Fiorina's economic statements are just mind numbingly idiotic, and apparently he believes the drivel that spews from his mouth.

    Aside from the gender issue at the end, those are all just as good arguments as yours.

    barfo
     
    barfo, Aug 16, 2015
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  10. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That isn't even approximately true.

    barfo
     
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    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/bernie-sanders-and-immigration-its-complicated-119190.html

    But in 2007, Sanders was part of the charge from the left to kill an immigration overhaul bill.

    Back then, the Vermont independent warned that the immigration bill — a product from then-Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) — would drive down wages for lower-income workers, an argument that’s been used by hard-liner reform opponents. He paired with conservative Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on a restrictive immigration amendment. And Sanders backed provisions characterized as poison pills to unravel the bill, while voting to block the final measure in June 2007.

    http://immigrationimpact.com/2015/05/01/bernie-sanders-immigration-policy-track-record/

    2. Sanders voted for comprehensive immigration reform in 2013.

    Sanders was initially reluctant to support the Senate Immigration reform bill, S. 744 over concerns with guest worker programs, however after an amendment that would have provided $1.5 billion over two years to state and local job programs targeting 16- to 24-year-olds was added, Sanders voted for the bill.
     
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    Barfo's political statements are just mindnumbingly idiotic.

    Yeah it does work. It's sometimes true :)
     
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    It really needs to start from the bottom. If we really want to move in a progressive, dare I say socialist direction, it needs to start with state reps, congress, governors, senators, etc.

    If they aren't winning elections at local levels, how could they for president? Bernie has no chance in hell, but maybe this gives some local like minded people some steam, and they take advantage of it.

    Although with giant corporate money flowing into local judicial and state Rep races even, its an uphill battle to say the least.
     
    3RA1N1AC, Aug 17, 2015
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  17. GriLtCheeZ

    GriLtCheeZ "Well, I'm not lookin' for trouble."

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  18. dviss1

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    Meh. You need Both houses of congress and the president to sign. If Bernie signs it into law who the hell is gonna overturn his veto? No one that's who.
     
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    I think it's HILARIOUS that you are defending the Kochs Denny. They get more free money than you can shake a stick at in oil subsidies. FREE money that is just given away. So instead of complaining about how it's a "drop in the bucket". Let's stop giving them that free money.
     
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  20. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    What else has she done? I hope you don't vote for people for just women's rights
     
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