For those that think we suck...

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Huh?
     
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    having a legendary coach bring his winning system to a team and fail...it's really not that difficult of a comparison
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    How does that relate to the post you replied to?! I said "until he develops a system that is greater than the superstars". Phil won because he usually had the two best superstars in the game. So basically his system is predicated on superstars, while Pops doesn't require that level of superstar talent to compete.
     
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    Pop has had David Robinson and Tim Duncan now has Tony Parker and Tim Duncan as well as Kawaii Leonard...finals MVP two seasons ago. Phil won with Fisher as a pt guard and Adam Morrison on the team...I stand by the comparison. Phil's triangle was a system that had a ton of success with role players surrounding franchise players. Spurs have won with franchise players and role players...
     
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    LOL, your argument is as thin as the tissue you tried to support it with.
     
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    nice try...I'm not the one baiting his opinion..just offering my own but it's my second cup of coffee so I'll wait for you to catch up ...
     
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    IMO this team as currently constructed does NOT have huge upside as in WCF contender - not even close, and I am assuming some of these guys improve. We need another top 8 draft pick that pans out, a top FA or top level guy acquired in a trade and a couple of the guys we now have to get very good. It can happen in a few years, but gotta have some luck
     
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    Phil's system is predicated on superstars (preferably a guard that is the best scorer in the league) to run the triangle. Pop's system can be used with any group of players, which is why he is still able to compete when he rests his players during the season. If Phil sat Jordan and Pippen, the bulls would lose every game. If Phil sat Kobe and Shaq, they would lose every game. Pops has sat Ginobli, Duncan and Parker and still won games vs quality opponents.

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    We salute you...

     
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    < 30 wins
     
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    Although if this was the Lakers roster they would suck, Bad!
     
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    Our bet was on 28 wins biatch
     
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    THIS!!! ME TOO. Seems people think about the next game and that's it. How about the next season, the next decade? Not sucking in my viewpoint.


    I never said this is a WFC contender currently slated. I think we have many guys on the roster with POTENTIAL huge upsides, but I have also stated many times we need to make a deadline trade and then pick up a thirds star in the off season. We now have the assets and cap space to do so and I don't think that is sucking.

    I know, first its a 20 win team, then 28, then 30.
    Tlong, by tip off you will be saying we might win 40 games! LOL
     
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    When this isn't true (which IS/WILL be fact)... what will you say then? Will it be: "oh, lol! I guess I was wrong. I love our guys! Go Blazers!"

    <82 wins book THAT!
     
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    Winning system? You mean having the two best players in the league on his roster?
     
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    Pops actually doesn't win all those games when he sits his starters and Phil has Melo...a pretty prolific scorer now. I like the Spurs and their system better than the triangle but that wasn't my point....you double faulted on your second serve so I win by default while you're treated for exhaustion on the sidelines ..the point you are avoiding at the cost of your argument is that a winning system that's translated to championships doesn't always win..like I said..it's not difficult to understand
     
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    I think 32 wins is the top of our bell curve... anywhere from 22-40 is possible.
     
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    I'm hoping for something like that as well; I do love me some over-achieving youngsters.
     
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    I'd argue that the Spurs have had a few of the best players in the league for over a decade
     

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