Why Do Many Reasonable People Doubt Science?

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  1. 3RA1N1AC

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    Jesus would distribute it to the needy. Are you saying he wouldn't?

    Luke 6:30
    Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.

    Hey marzy, can I have your boat?
     
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    Imagine if everyone did what this verse asks??? But alas, we are merely humans and can only strive to be Christlike.
     
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    Strive to be Christian when its convenient I guess. I don't know of very many Christians who would even consider following that verse.
     
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    and women don't exist? :)
     
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    Whatever happened to Clark Kent Jesus that used to pop up in these threads? That guy was a quality poster
     
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    But Christ was broke mags...you don't want to be broke and crucified
     
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    I've been exploring the Holy Ghost aspect of my existence.
     
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    So in some small humble way, I've conjured up Jesus from the dead...long time no see JC!
     
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    Not when it's convenient. This is much like a Child trying to please their parents, even though they will make mistakes along the way. The key component is what is a genuine action. Example: If I am just tithing because I am commanded to, instead of just giving from your heart. One is just following rules without blessings, while the other gives you blessings.

    If you give "YOUR BOAT", like you asked Marzy, just because it was some commandment in the Bible, it is worthless. But lets say you didn't ask and I saw you were truly in need of a boat and I gave mine to you from my heart, the reward is great.
     
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    Give to all who ask of you. It's pretty clear. Giving to someone who doesn't ask, while great, is something else entirely.

    And if you say that following the meaning of his words is worthless, if the words of Jesus are worthless, then what is the point exactly?
     
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    No, the scripture explains all are in need, including yourself. Everyone should ask because they are all in need. Hence, asking Jesus to come into your life and free you from the burden of need.
     
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    oh, so that passage isnt about jesus saying to give to all who ask?

    i guess the literal word of god is open to interpretation.
     
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    The Greek word πᾶς translated as "to everyone" is also translated "consistently" or "continually". Similarly to 1 Thessalonians 5:17 "Pray continually." Much as we are not commanded to spend 24 hours in constant prayer, we are not commanded to give every individual who asks us for something; both verses discuss a state of the heart, to be continually prayerful and generous.
     
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    if you are told to "pray continually", then arent you supposed to pray continually?

    it seems logical, if someone was a real follower of jesus, to take his words at face value, and not try to interpret them in a more convenient way.
     
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    You interpret scripture against scripture. If Jesus wasn't in prayer 24 hours a day, then obviously, we aren't supposed to be either.

    Greek is a complex language; it takes some effort to parse the intended meaning. I don't expect you to put forth the effort necessary to do anything but mock.
     
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    It's weird that you would choose to derail this thread to mock the Christian belief. I guess any chance you get is the common place?
     
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    Actually mags, reading through this thread there's little reference to doubting science and a lot of scripture analysis..that to me is weird. If you ask a question in a thread title, expect opposing views to have a voice my friend. Scientific method is geared for agnostics not anti Christians because agnostics go on the assumption that they don't really know the answers but choose to explore the possibilities. Science a few hundred years ago thought the world was flat and you'd sail off the edge of the world..fact..they didn't know until someone sailed far enough to disprove it. Galileo was imprisoned for his scientific theories by Christians just as Christians were imprisoned for their beliefs under facists. My answer to the thread title would be that people, religious, atheistic or agnostic doubt a lot of things without stopping to ask why. Scientists were sort of looked at as occultist beings by Christians and Christians were looked at as occultists by atheists. Sometimes these debates are designed to focus on differences rather than see humanity as having one common ground to share. You could in essence replace Christian and Atheist with Republican and Democrat and it always seems to divide rather than include
     
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    Odd that you would say "Science a few hundred years ago thought the world was flat and you'd sail off the edge of the world..fact." when that was NOT A FACT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth Last time I checked, 400-800 AD was not a few hundred years ago.

    But going back to your other points... I absolutely agree that all ideology has had their fair share of retarding the progress of science. Even modern beliefs and theories are retarding progress.
     
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    No Science keeps proving itself wrong. It tests itself over and over until the truth is found. And then the truth is tested over and over again. This does not happen in Religion.
     
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    Sure it does
     

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