Why Do Many Reasonable People Doubt Science?

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  1. MarAzul

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    Sorry to see you distraught by this ancient Hebrew yarn dviss. I hope you recover.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    It says God will take David's wives and give them to David's neighbor. That is not rape. That is God exercising his divine sovereignty.
     
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    It's rape and maybe forced prostitution if someone takes you wife and makes her fuck your neighbor..so the rape is set up by this divine dude but really it's what pimps do. When you read the passages you have to keep in mind eunichs or celibate monks were translating the language from Aramaic, Hebrew, Farsi and probably other languages..there's bound to be some misinterpretation down the line. Whatever happened to not coveting your brothers wife?
     
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    If rape were bad it would be one of the 10 Commandments.
     
  5. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    No problem. My brother' wife is unattractive and a major bitch to boot....
     
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    I just wish the non-scientifically inclined could see how beautiful and inspirational science and the search for reasoned, objective facts can be. Likewise, I am sure that many religious just wish the non-religious could see how beautiful and inspirational the word of god is to them. But, alas I don't see it. I don't know if it's possible for the two types of thinking to actually comprehend the perspective of the other. We can try, I attempt to, but I fall short. Mags walks the line and sees both god and science as beautiful, but I feel he often misunderstands both perspectives in his attempt to marry the two. But I'm glad he tries.
     
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    Unfortunately we, as humans can't know the answer to everything, and I doubt we ever will. At least in this life. Just based on my life experiences and observations, I honestly believe you can't have science without God and you can't have God without science. They may well be one and the same. I for one am personally satisfied with that and am content to let it ride for the rest of this particular rodeo.
     
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    The space program actually pioneered some attempt with getting cosmonauts from the former Soviet Union to work in tandem with astronauts that were predominately Christian so it does occur.
     
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    I think knowing the answer to everything is overrated
     
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    But trying to know the answer is underrated.
     
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    God is the true scientist. The divine scientific method. I wish some atheists actually see the poetry and romance of it all.
     
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    No matter what the Trinitarians try to push, God and Jesus are not the same entity. The God of Abraham was a jealous God full of vengeance. Completely different than Jesus.
     
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    I personally don't want to serve a God who while knowing Job was an upstanding and righteous man and that he would never forsake him, made a bet with Satan regarding his and his children's. Christians try to use the book of Job as some example of Faith. I simply see the God of Abraham making a bet with Satan and killing Job's children in the process...
     
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    Don't make me quote more Scripture. I've read the Bible cover to cover 2X. The Bible has a rape manual. There are specific directions with regard to what should happen after a woman is raped. That man-made book that was cherry picked by the Catholics is full of atrocities. And Christians want to sit here and talk shit about Muslims when both of their religions are full of atrocities.
     
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    We live in a time of unbounded criticism. Too much importance is put on uninformed opinion. It seems like people are becoming totally intolerant on certain subjects..... science can exist without philosophy, religion can exist without theology. It's only a matter of time before the word empathy becomes meaningless....
     
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    I never considered myself to be an Equaltarian but I might as well add that to my self descriptive assessment.
     
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    > The yin and yan symbol could be the right icon for your concept.
     
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    there are at least two types of "bad science" but that doesn't make science bad. 1) rushed, untested or under-tested claims. Usually well meaning attempts at truth that just jump the gun, but can also just be poorly thought out and designed experiments that have too many permutations to be adequately tested. 2) scientists who for reasons of greed, recognition or some other failing decide to prove a point, and force the s Irene to confirm to their agenda. These peckerwoods are true assholes.

    Then there is good science that uses all that's currently known to elucidate truths and test hypotheses, but as new information is learned over time it becomes falsifiable.

    I feel that many in society overinflate #2, and assign malice whenever a scientific theory or claim is disproven. But in actuality, most of the those disproven claims come from honest attempts that are either rushed or have new information introduced. So science is often looked at as untrustworthy. But almost every scientist I have ever known is fiercely honest with regards to their scientific claims. Would never purposely obscure, falsify or manipulate data to reach the result. Scientists have bad PR, they need better marketing because their image is often bastardized by people in the non-scientific community who do have agendas.
     
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    brando.jpg Where science goes wrong...the island of Dr Moreau
     
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    I do, but poetry/romance as you're using them semantically are subjective aesthetic qualities, not a measure of objective reality.
     

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