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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Tell you what... If America adopts Netherland's tax code, I'll buy you a new car. 70% on income of 40k
     
  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    18,267 millionaire households in D.C.

    The median net worth of our congressmen is $1.03M.

    Nancy Pelosi is worth at least $88M.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Aren't we at a 27% GDP right now? Pushing it to 40% would be 13% right?
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    27% including state income and business taxes.

    27% to 40% is a ~50% increase.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    What I posted is the truth and Denny will post graphs to support it. How dare you say this is fucking ridiculous. Learn the truth then post.
     
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    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

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    People advocating for higher taxes need to stop and calculate how much tax they already pay. Not just in Federal income tax, but all taxes paid to all levels of government, many of the taxes are hidden.

    Here is just a partial list.
    • Dog License Tax
    • Gasoline Tax
    • Liquor Tax
    • Marriage License Tax
    • Medicare and Medicaid, or Obama care Taxes
    • Property Tax
    • Real Estate Tax
    • Septic Permit Tax
    • Sales Taxes
    • School Tax
    • State Income Tax
    • State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    • Toll Bridge, Tunnel and Road Taxes
    • Vehicle License Registration Tax
    • Workers Compensation Tax
    • Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
    • Social Security Tax
    • Capital Gains Tax
    • Building Permit Tax

    Most employed USA citizens already lose between 43% and 60% of their paycheck to some form of tax.
     
  7. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Okay gotcha. Which comes up with my other argument.

    We have states and federal taxes. The EU is the Union for Europe, like the United States is the union for our states. So wouldn't Netherlands be like, let's say, NY or Las Vegas, as Greece would be like Mississippi?
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Greece be like Detroit be like Social Democracy in action.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Why aren't the union bailing out Germany, Italy, Greece or Spain? I mean they are all adopting some form of socialism right?
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Just don't let it happen again or I will ban you. Now eat your tuna and be happy
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Germany, no. They did the opposite of what Paul Krugman wanted and Obama did during the height of the financial crisis and are running huge surpluses. The social democracies are upset that their plans didn't work and want Germany to pay for everything.

    EDIT:

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    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015...n-dealing-with-vulnerable-eurozone-economies/
     
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    Oddly enough I did have tuna for dinner.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Can't. The oceans are dead. All the big fish are gone.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I'm just saying it's easy to pick a country with like 20 million people and assume it can apply for one with 300+ million. It doesn't ever work that way.
     
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    What is called "profit" in capitalism is included in "tax" in communism. The markup batween each level, from producer to retailer to consumer, was the only tax in most communist countries.

    To compare tax in capitalism to tax in communism, you should include profit. You'll find that our tax rates suddenly look much higher.
     
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    Germany has a fraction of the defense spending needs we do. Because we defend them.
     
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    Among many other countries
     
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    70% of US government spending is direct payments to individuals in the form of checks.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm sure that's not true.

    The government has been working to cut down on mailing checks in favor of direct deposit, cards, and other payment methods.

    barfo
     
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    Bullshit. That's a Republican talking point.
     

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