CJ working out with Nash (for PG skills)

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  1. jlprk

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    If any of Nash's passing skills can be taught, I'm thrilled CJ took the lessons..maybe he can pass some of that on to the rest of the team
     
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    Why would Tex set a good screen if setting a good screen meant fewer outside shots for Tex, and more driving to the scawy awea with the big tall guys?
     
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    To be clear, I am hardly down on Dame for not being able to handle the press. Even the best PG's in the history of the league have had issues bringing the ball up court when they are doubled. My point is that CJ, not being a true PG, will need help because they will most definitely pressure him. We have seen that during the summer league.

    And we have also seen teams like the Clippers, Spurs, and Suns, extend the D when Dame, Wes, and Nic were on the floor. Screens will help, but you don't always know when the trap is coming. We did a better job when we beat the Clips in OT by utilizing the alley oop and attacking the basket. But IMO what works best is having two PG's on the floor. That is why I like CJ playing SG in the 4th with Dame on the court too. Maybe Henderson at the SF. The more ball handlers the better.

    One reason why the 77' Blazers were so good. They had two PG's on the floor most of the times with Twardzik, Hollins and Davis alternating along with a good ball handling SF in Bobby Gross. (And of course a great passing center)
     
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    Was C.J able to pick up Steve's court vision also?
     
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    I would say he learned some things from him to help his court vision. Where to look, where not to look, etc.
    Much of court vision is your body stance and how you are angled to see peripherally what is happening around you. Based on what CJ said, it seems he learned some things on eye movement, body positioning, etc.
    So probably.
     
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    do we chant mvp for lillard cj or leonard? or all 3?
     
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    ZZZZZZ.........Nice one yet again. Dissect my statement, pull 5-6 words out and then question it completely out of context. Are you and Tlong related? :) Isn't your time more valuable than that? ;)
    Dame doesn't need PG improvement compared to CJ... you know ... the guy this thread is about? Plus I was meaning in context of him needing Defensive improvement much more. EVERYONE in the league can improve one way or another..... come on man... WTF!???!??!??!??!??!??!??!
     
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    Gotta disagree here. While stance and how you use your eyes to survey the court do aide in court vision, it is only a fraction of the equation. Court vision is a natural attribute/gift, you either have it or don't, its not something that can be greatly improved on.......slightly perhaps, but not drastic by any means.

    Now, learning HOW to see the court better, what to look for, and what tools/tricks you can use (look off a defender or misdirect) CAN be learned and practiced effectively.
     
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    Pretty much semantics? Knowing what to look for? How to position your body to be able to SEE what your looking for? Is there really a difference there? You cant teach stances and ball protection that still keeps your eyes and peripherals on the court?
    Also, the question was not a little or a lot, it was posed as at all? SO even if he learned enough to improve his court vision just a little.. isn't it still an improvement, of which we would be agreeing?

    We will have to agree to disagree. I think what you cant teach is instinct. knowing when to pass vs when to drive., etc. But as far as where to look, where to stand, how to dribble the ball and use your body as a blockade are all teachable traits and can help court vision...in my opinion.
     
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    My first thought was maybe Nash would be interested being an assistant coach but then I remembered something about him wanting to be around his kids in LA.
     
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    BS, Golden State is not around LA and he is willing to take the job. Bet you he is still pissed at Dame.
     
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    If it was that easy, I'm sure Olshey & Allen would hire Sobonis to teach our bigs court vision so they can pass like him. Amare Stoudamire had some training with Hakeem Olajuwan.
     
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    IMO, "court vision" is a misnomer, because it's not about seeing the court as much as it is about knowing and understanding what is going to happen on the court before it happens. And yes, certain people have a natural ability to understand patterns and motion and mechanics. But I also think it is possible to develop and improve that ability, and I think a good teacher would be able to convey an idea of how they see some of the things they see.

    No, working with Nash is not going to turn CJ into Chris Paul. But I do believe that he can better learn how to direct an offense and make the right reads. Sounds like I'm talking about a quarterback, but that comparison has been made a million times in the past, and it's an apt one.
     
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    So now we have to worry about CJ bolting for the Warriors?
     
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    Just a teaser to see how C.J. will be passing the ball next year.
     
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    Your completely missing the point. And teams DO do this...Lopez Bros worked out with Hakeem too.
     
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    or we're trading him for Klay Thompson
     

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