Delonte Bassy and RajonDelonte hasn't been playing his best this year, but he's even said himself that that can be attributed to him playing more 2, and rushing his shots to get them over the bigger defenders. IMO he can still play point very well and showed us that last night, while he played pretty well before he hurt himselfBassy has played well too. His offense has leveled off a bit of late, but he has played well overall. His outside shooting has been atrocious but I still think he is one of our best slashers and penetrators.Rondo is all around a very good player and always has an impact whether he played 5 or 15 minutes. IMO he has the highest ceiling out of them all, especially if his jumpshot develops.Obviously if we want Delonte to play well he needs to be playing the point, and the other two guys can't play 2-guard, so my question is, who should get left out and traded. IMO moving Delonte to the 2 was a mistake, as I was preaching that he needed to stay at the point all offseason long. You can't get rid of a guy like Rondo, he does everything.That leaves Telfair out. Yes I always knew he had a very high ceiling, but I honesly don't think that he fits in well with this team. IMO he doesn't push the ball as much as he can and walks it up too often. Is a trade necessary? I don't think so, but Rondo shouldn't be denied of minutes either. Something needs to be done.I don't even know why I made this thread. I'm bored and at work so it was essentially a bunch of random thoughts about our point guards all thrashed into one post.
Maybe it doesn't have to be this season, but in order for one or two of these PG's to really flourish, we need to deal one of them. yanks, you say you don't want to make a trade, and you think Rondo should play more, but who's minutes do you cut into? Delonte or Bassy's? Or both? I mean you can't do that either, and Delonte at the 2 on most nights is not something we should do anymore, that experiment is over (unless it's in a situation like last night where Iverson and Boykins are on the floor. Then Delonte can play some 2). Rondo definitely has the highest ceiling of all of them at this point, but who knows? I still love Rondo, of course, and I was so happy that he got minutes last night. I am NOT happy that one of my favorite players on the team, Delonte, got hurt though. But I say by the start of next season, at least one move (trade) is done, so we'll see where that brings us. For right now, I just want to focus on the team we have right now.
I'd Make Delonte go to the 2 and myabe Green or Allen to move to the 3. Cut minutes between Bass and Rondo.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinoy Balla @ Dec 27 2006, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd Make Delonte go to the 2 and myabe Green or Allen to move to the 3. Cut minutes between Bass and Rondo.</div>Then what are you going to do when paul and wally come back? I mean you can't just think of now you got to think of the future to. Rondo IMO is going to be good so I woulden't cut into his already shallow playing time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Dec 27 2006, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Maybe it doesn't have to be this season, but in order for one or two of these PG's to really flourish, we need to deal one of them. yanks, you say you don't want to make a trade, and you think Rondo should play more, but who's minutes do you cut into? Delonte or Bassy's? Or both? I mean you can't do that either, and Delonte at the 2 on most nights is not something we should do anymore, that experiment is over (unless it's in a situation like last night where Iverson and Boykins are on the floor. Then Delonte can play some 2).</div>Yes, I know. Like I said I was kind of just spitting thoughts and ideas out. It's not that I don't want to make a trade, I just don't feel its unbelievably necessary. But my opinion still remains that Rondo must see more minutes... somehow.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinoy Balla @ Dec 27 2006, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'd Make Delonte go to the 2 and myabe Green or Allen to move to the 3. Cut minutes between Bass and Rondo.</div> 1. Delonte struggles when he plays the 2 on most nights. Unless we have a matchup like last night with two small guards (Iverson/Boykins), Delonte should not play the 2. He can't get shots off as well over 6'5'' or 6'6'' players, and he obviously has a lot of trouble defensively because of the size mismatches. 2. Gerald Green does play SF, like 90% of the time he's on the court.
It's a tough decision, honestly I really don't know who we should move and who we should keep. Delonte plays well sometimes, but he can't play the 2 and if he's not getting consistent minutes then he doesn't perform great. I definitely think Rondo has the most potential, and I don't really understand why he's not getting more playing time, but I don't see the practices so I don't know. Sebastian is definitely good at running a fast paced offense, but he's not a good shooter and I don't see him ever being much of a scorer, even though he penetrates well. I could make an argument for why we should trade every one of them, and my thoughts on it change after every game, I don't know what we should do, but Doc/Danny needs to figure it out soon, because it's pointless trying to split the minutes between the three of them, and letting one rot on the bench and not develop.
I think they should deal one of the 3 PG's now. Listen delonte already said that he wouldnt object to being a sixer when there were talks of ai going 2 boston...U have to question his loyalty to the team man. Plus I could be wrong here but isnt Delonte the older of the 3?
He followed that up by saying that Boston has been good to him and he likes it here, of course anyone would love to play in their hometown, but he definitely isn't disloyal to our franchise. Delonte is the oldest, yes. He's 23, Sebastian is 21 and Rondo is 20. (I believe)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Dec 27 2006, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. Delonte struggles when he plays the 2 on most nights. Unless we have a matchup like last night with two small guards (Iverson/Boykins), Delonte should not play the 2. He can't get shots off as well over 6'5'' or 6'6'' players, and he obviously has a lot of trouble defensively because of the size mismatches.2. Gerald Green does play SF, like 90% of the time he's on the court.</div>Haven't really watched any Celtic games this year. So didn't know.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (boykinsforpresident @ Dec 27 2006, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>U have to question his loyalty to the team man.</div> The things I will never question about Delonte West: loyalty and team spirit. This guy lays his ass on the line every night for us. He would play center and guard Shaq if Doc asked him to (which, I wouldn't be surprised if Doc did do that... ok just kidding), and he wants to be a Celtic. He works very hard, he has a great friend-to-friend relationship with the entire team (except maybe some of the new guys that don't know him well enough yet), his vocal leadership skills have improved, he never complains, etc. Wally summed it up perfectly: "This is a guy that had a great year last year, and lost his job right from the get-go to Sebastian, and he never said one word about it. He still comes in with a smile on his face and he continues to work as hard as anyone on the team."
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Dec 27 2006, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The things I will never question about Delonte West: loyalty and team spirit. This guy lays his ass on the line every night for us. He would play center and guard Shaq if Doc asked him to (which, I wouldn't be surprised if Doc did do that... ok just kidding), and he wants to be a Celtic. He works very hard, he has a great friend-to-friend relationship with the entire team (except maybe some of the new guys that don't know him well enough yet), his vocal leadership skills have improved, he never complains, etc.Wally summed it up perfectly: "This is a guy that had a great year last year, and lost his job right from the get-go to Sebastian, and he never said one word about it. He still comes in with a smile on his face and he continues to work as hard as anyone on the team."</div>This is why Delonte is my favorite Celtic (excluding Pierce.. he's everyones favorite Celtic). He shuts up, works hard, and plays harder. I also don't see anything wrong with him not objecting to be a Sixer. He went to college in PA, was born in DC, which is only 2-3 hours from Philly, like CB said, who wouldn't wanna play near where they grew up.
If anyone I would shop bassy now. I would love to see rondo become the starter in the future and have delonte on the bench to come in and stroke it from the outside which he does well when he has 2 options on the floor with him. Delonte should never be our 2nd option on the court and if he is........were gonna lose. Bassy and rondo remind me of eachother in a lot of ways and I dont see the point of having two players that basically bring the same thing to the table. I dont wanna deal anyone now unless we can snag someone REALLY good along the lines of KG or something like that. But I say let the season work itself out this season then look to deal bassy IMO. But I wouldnt be against dealing delonte if the possibility arose to grab a big namer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Delonte4Prez @ Dec 30 2006, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If anyone I would shop bassy now. I would love to see rondo become the starter in the future and have delonte on the bench to come in and stroke it from the outside which he does well when he has 2 options on the floor with him. Delonte should never be our 2nd option on the court and if he is........were gonna lose. Bassy and rondo remind me of eachother in a lot of ways and I dont see the point of having two players that basically bring the same thing to the table. I dont wanna deal anyone now unless we can snag someone REALLY good along the lines of KG or something like that. But I say let the season work itself out this season then look to deal bassy IMO. But I wouldnt be against dealing delonte if the possibility arose to grab a big namer.</div>I disagree completelywhile Bassy is a really good offensive threat Rondo doesn't have much of a jumper (even if he makes things happen when he's out there)Rondo is known for his lack of offense and amazing defenseBassy is known for his lack of defense and amazing offense (hes kind of cold..but hes still like 21 and will be good)I have to agree thoughI could see Bassy going before Rondo or D West
