Black People can't be racist

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  1. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    There is no such thing as gay marriage. It's called marriage. The 14th amendment gives them the right of equal protection. Plus any law made out of respect of religion is unconstitutional. They didn't need to recuse themselves. Clarence Thomas actually was paid by lobbying. His wife is a fucking lobbyist. That's a completely different story.
     
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    I was wondering, not calling you out or anything, but the constitution define or even acknowledge marriage?
     
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    We're getting off topic here but that's not the point. The point is that all citizens have equal protection under the law. Nothing more nothing less.
     
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    Please take three and a half minutes of time out of your day and gain perspective. This is what we want white people to do:



    If you Really want to gain perspective, I encourage you to take some time to watch this. Joy DeGruy Leary is amazing:

     
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    I get that, but that protection is what is laid out in the constitution. They cannot be protected if that protection isn't clearly described in the constitution. The federal government's job is to make laws, which are defined in the constitution.

    And this doesn't mean I don't support "gay marriage" I actually do. But the federal government doesn't even have man and woman marriage defined in the constitution. From what I remembered, they allowed each state to determine the laws of their state. This is why I'm a little confused with the Supreme Court Ruling.
     
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    I think we could probably take the word racist and replace it with ignorant in most cases. My son is mixed race..in asia he experienced it in public school overseas and then again in public school here in the states. He out grew it but was a victim of racial bullying and was not black...I'll never compare being a white male to being a black male and what that experience is like..guys like dviss and black friends of mine educate me so I can try to understand but I know racism exists outside the black white examples. I think this is where folks get confused. Most of my friends overseas were Taiwanese and if I were out with them and a caucasian person entered the place, they expected me to go meet that person and talk with him because we're both white..
     
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    He is not his wife, not directly involved in anything related. The other justices in the gay marriage case were directly involved.

    I'm pro gay marriage, so don't get me wrong. If YOU are going to set some standard for Thomas, it should apply to the others.

    But since it doesn't, it's hypocrisy.
     
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    It is spelled out.

    The 14th requires the states to treat their persons equally under the law. The US constitution doesn't have to say anything about marriage. The states define marriage ("by the power vested in me by the state of ____, I pronounce you married."
     
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    That makes sense. I just want to understand how I can apply this to those that argue otherwise.

    Again, I support gay marriage.
     
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    I only had time to watch the first video right now, but that's a great example of things most people don't think about. I have no context or whatever about the cashier, but I'd like to think this is dying more and more with each generation in America. I was a cashier for multiple years in college and never treated anybody like that. it's wrong that people are legitimately acting that way. Thanks for sharing
     
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    Grocery store shopping, hate it. This is why.

    The store isles are designed so two carts can pass each other with plenty of room. Most people are courteous and respect the space of others when they stop to look at a product. However, there is one large group that likes to take their half of the isle out of the middle when they stop moving. They intentionally block the movement of others, in both directions. A passive aggressive person who feels entitled to disrupt the movement of others.

    Black people are never passive aggressive in the grocery stores. Just the opposite, they tend to go out of their way to be polite with everyone and respect the space of others. The same can be said for Mexican shoppers.

    Every encounter I have had with a passive aggressive shopper, which have been way too many, has been a white female.
     
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    Okay, I watched the first video and definitely agree. I've seen this first hand and have made the case whenever I've seen this injustice.
     
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    They do the taxes together don't they? Now, I'm really done debating about this piece of shit so just stop okay? fuck Clarence Thomas
     
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    You are correct Denny. However, the definition of Marriage had to change before the 14th became applicable. The definition of the word was alway from religion ( in all major religions marriage is between a man and a woman) and here in Oregon, Marriage was defined as union of a man and a woman in our Constitution. So the Oregon attorney General that would not defend this, was not failing to defend a law that prohibited Gays from Marriage (the were free to marry), she would not defend the definition of marriage as the people had defined. The Gay Judge that ruled it unconstitutional over stepped his authority by a mile since the US Constitution does not deal with the definition of Marriage. The 14th was not violated for about 150 years until the Gays managed to change the definition of the word, just like they did the word Gay.
     
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    Me too! However, I will have to add Vietnamese fisherman at the fuel dock in the years right after they began to immigrate to this country.
     
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    So @Denny Crane does the 14th Amendment protect violent criminals from the death penalty?
     
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    I watched the video and it makes a solid point. I would have liked to have heard what the manager's take and actions were. Was there actually a policy requiring ID for everybody writing checks? If so, then the cashier should have been reprimanded or fired for ignoring the policy with the "white" lady. If not, then the cashier should have been immediately fired for being racist towards the second lady. If the manager didn't take any action against the clerk either way, then I'd want to talk to the owner of the place about policies that are being enforced differently based, apparently, on skin color. There might need to be a complaint filed with the state for discriminatory practices.

    All of that said, racism and xenophobia are pretty deeply ingrained in the human psyche and they aren't likely to go away completely no matter what laws are passed. I suspect that it's rooted in our DNA as a part of a survival mechanism to seek protection in the known group vs. the outsider or people who simply aren't like us. That doesn't mean that we don't fight against those tendencies to try to make things better for everyone, but it probably, unfortunately, means that change isn't going to come easily or ever be complete.
     
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    And for those of you who don't know the lady in the video, she is Joy Degruy. She is a very prominent leader in our community. She lives right here in Portland and that happened at a local Safeway. Her former husband helped found SEI. The hour and 20 minute video is a must watch for those of you who would like to try to gain a different perspective on this subject. MarAzul will not be watching the video I can guarantee it.
     
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    No.

    The constitution states that no person shall be deprived of LIFE, liberty, or property without due process.

    As long as there is due process, the state can take a person's life.
     
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    Do they?

    You leap to conclusions much? That's rhetorical, you do :)
     
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