Black People can't be racist

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  1. Denny Crane

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    There were no white people living in Cabrini Green or the Robert Taylor homes.

    Mayor Jane Byrne symbolically moved in for a few days once. It was a circus.

    Daley was well known to be racist, antisemite, etc.
     
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    poor white neighborhoods are usually rural. poor minority neighborhoods are usually urban. more violent crime is found in both demographics. both feel the need for weapons to protect themselves ..is racism a distraction from classism in modern society?
     
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    Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see white people complaining about institutionalized racism.
     
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    Think you slid too far back in the saddle with this topic, and the horse kicked you in the head.

    Finding things we have in common is what is going to end racism.
    The more you promote separate brands, the more chance for racism to exist.
     
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    "You suffer from all this racism. I got a jaywalking ticket, so we are even."

    Get it?
     
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    No I think racism and classism are distractions from a lack of parental control in modern society, look in poor neighborhoods regardless of race. They're usually uneducated and kids are running around with the wrong people because they're being systematically used by the gangs/drug dealers to move product or kill.
     
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    You're just making up the "so we are even" part.
     
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    I grew up in the 50s in a county with no black residents but a large Native American reservation. The contrast was pronounced and they were the oppressed minority group. Now, that has changed drastically
    I don't think anyone is making that comparison Denny except you in this example. Human injustice affects humanity. Racism is part of that equation. We react to injustice accordingly. Being harassed by a cop happens to lots of folks..white civil rights workers have died to protect civil rights and because they were white does not make their deaths any less tragic.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_civil_rights_workers'_murders
     
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    You can tell from dviss1's reaction that it is how it's coming across.

    He's said a few times that idiot police who harass anyone need to be dealt with. But you getting a jaywalking ticket and him getting stopped in the park while jogging, and for no good reason, are not equivalent.
     
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    I keep seeing this thread title and reading it as "Black People can't resist"

    Can't resist what?!
     
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    Indians are literally a nation unto themselves. They were badly mistreated and their land taken from them.

    It is not the same as being brought here in chains, families sold off in different directions, zero freedom, no rights, and over a century of establishing laws and business codes to exclude them once free.

    Black lives matter is a response to this mistreatment over a long period of time.

    No jaywalking ticket comes anywhere close.

    Once you get it, you'll get it.
     
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    What about Irish immigrants ? They went through many of these same injustices
     
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    Getting stopped without probable cause is the same thing. Getting stopped because you are black or a hippy is unfair treatment. You are right, it needs to be dealt with. Being hispanic and having your ID checked is unfair treatment. Nobody disagrees here about these things but if you want white americans to own their inherited guilt, that's a fair point. Cops who abuse their public trust don't get to determine that if we have an even playing field and we don't have an even playing field here just like I would not have an even playing field in certain neighborhoods in Hawaii for instance. So we talk about these things. You don't get to determine the level of fairness or unfairness as it relates to my experiences or dviss experiences..he does and I do.
     
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    You're white. You blend in. Assimilation was quite easy and done long long ago.

    You were never slaves.
     
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    It's not the same thing.

    When you get stopped daily, then you have a point.
     
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    I think you're comparison's are assuming we don't live by those principles. My grandmother is native american. I can talk about that because I've grown up around it. If you think Native Americans weren't mistreated over a long period of time, you and I have different views of American history. The thread is a forum to discuss racism and cite examples and exceptions. I experienced a lot of racial tensions in Viet Nam from black and white americans. Neither was justified. If you think a black soldier calling an asian a gook is ok because he's black, I disagree and it has nothing to do with jaywalking tickets or your night in jail. I believe all humans can be guilty of racism and none should practice it
     
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    If I were aware of cops stopping black people daily because they are black, I'd go out of my way to see they were reported and lost their job. Dviss and I discussed the lack of training and accountability that cops get before they are empowered, that is a different subject
     
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    About the time Grant was President, most Native American Indians where shipped to containment reservations, many where thousands of miles from their home. The Indians had no rights at these reservations, let alone enough to eat, and could not leave, which made them nothing more than prisons.

    Some of the Indians where eventually permitted to return to a reservation near their home land, some were not. Many family members were separated by thousands of miles and never saw each other again before they passed away.

    Then there was the bounty placed by the State of CA on the Native American Indians. The going rate was $5 to $10 per head. Just in one year, CA paid out $1 million in bounties for Indians hunted down and killed. Somehow the bounty on Indians is always left out of our history books.
     
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    Wrong denny. Irish immigrants were slaves at one time
     
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    Racism in the United States
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    Racism and ethnic discrimination in the United States has been a major issue since the colonial era and the slave era. Legally or socially sanctioned privileges and rights were given to White Americans that were not granted to Native Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, and Latin Americans. European Americans (particularly Anglo Americans) were granted in matters of education, immigration, voting rights, citizenship, land acquisition, and criminal procedure over periods of time extending from the 17th century to the 1960s. However, non-Protestant immigrants from Europe; particularly Jews, Irish people, Poles and Italians, suffered xenophobic exclusion and other forms of ethnicity-based discrimination in American society, and were not considered fullywhite.

    Major racially and ethnically structured institutions included slavery, Indian Wars, Native American reservations, segregation,residential schools for Native Americans, and internment camps.[1] Formal racial discrimination was largely banned in the mid-20th century, and came to be perceived as socially unacceptable and/or morally repugnant as well.

    Racial politics remains a major phenomenon. Racism continues to be reflected in socioeconomic inequality,[2] and has taken on more modern, indirect forms of expression, most prevalently symbolic racism.[3] Racial stratification continues to occur in employment, housing, education, lending, and government.

    In the view of the U.S. Human Rights Network, a network of scores of U.S. civil rights and human rights organizations, "Discrimination permeates all aspects of life in the United States, and extends to all communities of color".[4] While the nature of the views held by average Americans have changed much over the past several decades, surveys by organizations such as ABC Newshave found that, even recently, large sections of Americans self-admit to holding discriminatory viewpoints; for example, a 2007 article by the organization stated that about one in ten held admitted to holding prejudices against Hispanic-Americans and about one in four did so regarding Arab-Americans.[5]



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