Politics OMG Carly with huge 100% gain in polls

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  1. riverman

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    They say Kennedy increases advisors from 700 there to 12,000 but I'd assume Eisenhower had 700 there before that. 1959 first american advisors killed there
     
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    Not under any viewpoint.

    Assuming you mean "advisors" it was Eisenhower in 1955. Assuming you mean actual actively engaged combat troops firing on the enemy it was Johnson in 1965.

    http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/vietnam-war/timeline-of-the-vietnam-war/

    In truth, France sent the first combat troops there around 1860 and many times after until they were defeated in 1954. We immediately installed an "elected" leader of the new South Vietnam and the war was on.
     
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    Number of USA troops in Vietnam by year by president.

    Eisenhower
    1959….760
    1960….900

    Kennedy
    1961…...3,205
    1962….11,300
    1963….16,300

    Johnson
    1964….23,300
    1965…184,300
    1966…385,300
    1967…485,600
    1968…536,100
    1968…475,200
    declines until
    1973……….50


    Using Putin’s definition of “combat troops”, we sent a lot of our military personal to Vietnam to visit distant relatives.
     
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    Seems like Carly Fiorina is forgettable after all, hundred percent..pshahhh!
     
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    In 1962, I was back at Langley, getting prepared to go to Cuba. Still had yet to hear of Vietnam. Maybe I wasn't listening, I sure heard the word though when I didn't have to go to Cuba.
     
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    Kennedy had everyone so scared over the Cuban situation; many people were digging holes in their backyards to build bomb shelters. All the news at that time was about Cuba and a possible war it might cause with Russia. Not much attention was paid to Kennedy ramping up troops advisers in Vietnam.
     
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    If you want to be honest about it, the same people (the military industrial complex) started the war, sent all of the American troops to die there, and profited beyond belief from the estimated 1,313,000 murders committed there.

    Presidents and potential presidents came and went, were assassinated or bought or cowered by threats depending on their cooperation or lack thereof. Johnson, Bush and Bush being the exceptions as they were personally major players/profiteers in the military industrial complex.

    It's hard to peg Reagan since he was the most manipulated president in my lifetime. He was clearly failing mentally during his first presidency and a total puppet during his second, but Nancy had more influence than anyone. She was probably our first female president, really. Reagan managed to enrich the mic big time without anyone blaming Ronnie for actually "starting" any huge wars, although the illegal arms deals and illegal military assistance in the middle east created Al Quaida and laid the groundwork for all the wars we've had since. His drug smuggling and drug sales to young Americans created the prison population we now have, and ironically the huge dependence on social welfare for basic subsistence we are struggling to meet.

    One President had the incredible balls to actually tell Americans to their face that a coup was in progress, but the masses aren't very astute to say the least.
     
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    mags, you need to include Marty Feldman in your collection.
     
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    There's a lot of evidence that Kennedy was trying to get out of Vietnam, so he was killed. Saying "I will tear the CIA into a thousand pieces" (disconnected outposts) didn't give him longevity, either.
     
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    There was just too much good ole boy money to be made in the arms game to not cash in once they had it in their pocket. We moved a lot of hardware in that war and signed a lot of defense contracts.
     
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    Forbes has trump gaining 3% to 33%, Ben Carson 2nd at 13%, Jeb third at 9%, and Carly 4th at 7%

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/2015/09/20/zogby-poll-trump-widens-lead-after-gop-debate/

    Real estate mogul Trump has widened his lead to 20 points in a brand new Zogby Analytics poll taken after the second Republican presidential debate. The new poll of 405 likely Republican primary/caucus voters nationwide with a margin of sampling error of +/- 5.0 percentage points, conducted September 18-19, shows Mr. Trump with 33% (up 2 points from his pre-debate 31%). In second place is neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson who actually dropped 3 points to 13%. Former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, widely considered to be the big winner in the debate, moved up from just 2% last week to 7% and fourth place in the new poll – just 2 points behind former Florida Governor Jeb Bush’s 9% (which is exactly where he was last week).

    Oddly, I was expecting Carly to take some women's votes. That wasn't the case according to this poll.

    "Mr. Trump’s lead is across the board, among most major sub-groups – 36% among men, 30% with women, 30% Republicans, 39% independents, 29% moderates, and 31% conservatives.

    Dr. Carson’s best showings were among Republicans 14%, and conservatives 16%. Mrs. Fiorina did better among men (9%) than women (5%) and Republicans 8% than independents (5%). Mr. Bush scored 10% with women, 8% with men, 12% moderates, but just 6% among conservatives."
     
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    I feel it is a win as long as Bush is way back.
     
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    Oh and btw @e_blazer this was just on tonight. Still believe the CNN poll?

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    Lmao just kidding!!!!
     
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    Well...

    If you are going to take stock price as the sole measure, it looks like things got a lot better as soon as they got rid of her.

    barfo
     
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    It looks like things got better for her whole last three years.

    She led Lucent to one of the hugest IPOs ever.

    The stock market tanked in clinochio's last year. Half the tech companies disappeared altogether.
     
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    Is this the next Disney show? OMG Carly? Is that like Hannah Montana?
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    well shit, she must have been such an amazing CEO, she should have easily found another executive position. What company did she work for after being forced out of HP @Denny Crane? I'm sure you can name at least one other company from then till now.
     

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