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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    This is like saying "There ain't poor people because I live in an area that doesn't have poor people". Or "There isn't racism because I haven't been exposed to it locally"
     
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    no mags.if you have enough expendable income you can purchase the best healthcare on the planet..money makes the difference. Implants for bad teeth or partial plates...heart transplant or death..money affects those choices..always has
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    So we allow the government dictate our healthcare... Logical
     
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    dumbest post in a long time
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    So you are in support of being taxed 2.2 trillion extra dollars per year, allowing the government to decide which hospital, medication and treatment?
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I'm sorry if someone saying something is okay because their dad was treated okay. My dad wasn't treated okay at the VA hospitals to a point that he had to pay out of his own pocket to be treated fairly
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    All you've done is try and sell its okay to be taxed because we don't know how to spend our money right, so the government can spend it for us. The same government that has put us 18.5 trillion in debt. LOGIC
     
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    I'm in favor of healthcare coverage by sales tax...you buy a lot of shit, you pay more towards healthcare. I'm also aware that affordable care will not be everywhere until there is tort reform and doctors are not sued to stitch you up...health clinics should be provided in every community just like public schools..you want specialty care, pay extra for your plastic surgery
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    THIS!!!! The Republicans and Democrats in DC have destroyed America.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Champus Insurance, which is the VA insurance for my father paid 70% of all bills. My father had to pay the rest to go to wherever "accepts champus". He had a triple bypass surgery back in 88 that cost 140K. My dad owed 42k after what the government paid for that nearly bankrupt my father. If my father actually went to a VA hospital, he would have been dead back then because he would have to drive 65 miles to go to the nearest VA hospital.
     
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    It's necessary to be taxed for services, like it or not..it's the process and government is pretty far from an entity that's working as one unit for the benefit of society..our government is in need of healing too
     
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    Bernie puts up a good fight and I believe he is sincere. What I don't believe in is the DC ESTABLISHMENT that may bring in another legislation after Bernie that reallocates the added funds into new bills. Congress has that power. They can use Bernie to hedge this allocation, so DC can spend it on Big Brother bills later. They will make you think it's good for you, but what it really does is take more of your freedom away, while take your money too. They are the biggest con artists in America
     
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    They weren't in control. That's a huge misperception.

    Why do you see auto insurance ads on TV where the companies are undercutting one another? Accidents are as sure to happen as expensive medical treatments.
     
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    You spout and spout without doing ANY research...

    VA hospitals on par with private sector for patient satisfaction:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...with-private-sector-for-patient-satisfaction/

    Former military service members using Department of Veterans Affairs hospitals are just as happy with their care as patients using private medical clinics, according to a leading customer-satisfaction survey.

    The American Customer Satisfaction Index for 2013 shows that the VA health network, which serves more than 8 million veterans, achieved marks equal to or better than those in the private sector.

    The health system earned overall satisfaction indexes of 84 for inpatient care and 82 for outpatient services, while the U.S. hospital industry earned scores of 80 and 83 in those categories, respectively.

    “Our nation’s veterans deserve the best care, and the ACSI survey results help us better understand how veterans feel about their overall care experience at the VA,” Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki said in a statement about the results on Wednesday. “There is always more work to do, and we are focused on continuous improvement to the care we provide.”

    Jacob Gadd, the American Legion’s deputy director for health care, said the scores reflect “pride among veterans that there’s a system for them that understands their unique needs.” He also credited the VA with bolstering satisfaction levels through new initiatives such as its system of “patient-aligned care teams” that provide patients with personalized care from a group of health professionals that fit their individual needs.

    Despite good news on the customer-satisfaction front, not all has been completely well with the VA health system. Last year, the House Veterans Affairs Committee held a hearing on preventable deaths at VA hospitals following a series of high-profile incidents, which officials said are not indicative of a systemic problems for the department.

    The VA provided nearly 90 million outpatient visits last year, and its medical network handles about 236,000 health-care appointments each day, according to the department.

    Veterans overwhelmingly expressed positive views about customer service at VA health centers, with more than 90 percent survey respondents indicating favorable opinions for inpatient and outpatient care.

    Ninety-two percent of respondents said VA medical providers are highly courteous, while 91 percent said the same of appointment personnel. Additionally, more than 95 percent of the survey takers said they would use a VA medical center the next time they need care.

    The VA also earned high marks last year for its National Cemetery Administration, which beat out all other federal agencies and even some top corporations with a score of 96 in the ACSI. That mark represented the highest rating for both the public and private sectors, and it placed the VA cemetery network 28 points higher than the average for all federal agencies.
     
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    Because insurance companies are vultures.
     
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    EVERY.

    OTHER.

    INDUSTRIALIZED.

    NATION.

    GUARANTEES.

    HEALTHCARE.

    FOR.

    IT'S.

    CITIZENS.
     
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    What is a preexisting condition? It's a term used to deny care.

    When you are denied care that you need the insurance company is in control. Like it or not, Obamneycare got rid of that term.
     
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    How much does Champus, which is the insurance for veterans, pay? It's a simple question.... I don't need to look at any of these articles, because the facts are facts.

    http://www.va.gov/PURCHASEDCARE/docs/pubfiles/factsheets/FactSheet_01-11.pdf

    So right now, they pay 75% of any major costs. So if you require something that costs 200k, how much do the vets have to pay?
     
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    This only proves how the DC establishment has screwed us. Big Pharma, Big Oil, Big banks run this country. We elect our congress to fight these companies. Make them accountable, that's what they are elected to do. Punishing the citizens by taxing them and deciding what they use doesn't solve shit. Those entities still own congress and they will still feed their pockets on your dime. But now, you have no say.... LOGIC
     
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    You've just made the case for single payer.
     

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