Politics Looks like Bernie sanders is feeling his own Bern

Policies that don't work is a pretty big task to gut when we're commited to fighting terrorism and dealing with policing the world in the cause of democracy...explain how you're going to cut this spending...by installing a police state and building a wall on the border? By cutting benefits to poor people or going to war with planned parenthood? Training a better police force isn't cheap. We could declare bankruptcy 4 times and default on loans then open up a new govt under new guidelines with a new name, new flag....we could splinter into smaller nations and localize govt. What's your fix mags? You think spending less on our needs and future will work? I want Brianfromwashington to get his paycheck this month.

 

Then take in more revenue is the answer? So you support being taxed 40% GDP? That means you will pay more than 20%. The top 1% can't pay it all you know

 

mags has 3T and knows how to spend that 3T and he doesn't trust Bernie to spend 2.2T of his money.

 

This is seriously some funny shit. The fact that any of you people trust a federal government that has never balanced their budget since the last term of Clinton with more tax revenue is fucking lunacy.

DC would love Bernie to push this bill. Once he's out, they can redirect funds into another policy and say "fuck you America, we stuck it to you again"

 

I have no problem paying whatever tax rate is for the greater need for my grandchildren's future..personally I have no debt...zero..no mortgage payment..no credit card. I think we have to tax consumption..if you can shop for luxury, you pay tax toward the greater need. I think the wage worker should get a break and the consumer with expendable income should balance it out when they buy a new car or guitar...tax me. I'll pay it within my ways and means. I save more money from my meager income than most people I know.

 

Also, mags won't look at any other source besides the ones he agrees with:

http://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-wsj-18-trillion

But the analysis has also been cited favorably by progressive advocates of a single-payer healthcare system, who note that Conyers' bill would purportedly save nearly $600 billion annually by eliminating administrative waste in the private-insurance industry and cutting prices of pharmaceutical medicine.

"In 2014, the savings would be enough to cover all 44 million uninsured and upgrade benefits for everyone else. No other plan can achieve this magnitude of savings on health care," Friedman wrote in his 2013 analysis.

The Washington Post's Paul Waldmanbacked up Sanders on some of his criticism. As Waldman pointed out, the US currently spends about $3 trillion a year — and will spend close to $42 trillion over the next decade — on healthcare. He argued that Sanders' proposal wouldn't add on to that total, but rather reallocate the way the US spends money on healthcare.

"By the logic of the scary $18 trillion number, you could take a candidate who has proposed nothing on health care, and say, 'So-and-so proposes spending $42 trillion on health care!' It would be accurate, but not particularly informative," Waldman wrote.

 

way to exclude your fellow countrymen mags....you could also go back to the roaring 20's...don't stop at the Clinton era.

 

I think if you propose any new policy, you make it work within a balanced budget. As I've already said... We tax 22.5% of GDP roughly 3.6 trillion. The Bernie Healthcare bill (excluding everything else) cost 1.5 - 2.2 trillion. We are left with 1.3 -1.6 trillion to run the rest? You support healthcare being over 55% of taxed revenue?

 

So you finally fucking admit Bernie's plan SAVES money...

I'm done debating this issue with you bro...

 

When your kids get sick from an airborne virus at school..it suddenly gets important

 

But it will not help! Healthcare does not generate more revenue for this country, because supposedly Bernie will save 800 bill of what has been taxable revenue. Meaning we lose GDP.

 

It doesn't save money!!!! Omg you are losing your mind! In order to generate that revenue, we are taxed more. Like 20% more

 

Read your link again. You keep posting this and it keeps proving my point that Bernie intends to tax us 2.2 trillion more dollars per year.

 

@dviss1 keeps using that link and thinks it supports not being a 18 trillion tax

 

I'm done. You don't know what you're talking about and won't listen or read anything that I've posted to the contrary of your view. Bernie's plan saves money. And you have NO CLUE on how Single Payer works.

 

No it's 2.2 Trillion INSTEAD of the 3 Trillion we are currently spending... Now I'm done...

 

I do understand. I understand that you allow the government to tell you which hospital to go to, what medications you use, what doctor you see. They justify this by negotiating with the pharma companies, hospitals and suppliers on a discounted rate; but makes your decision for you.

Question... So let's say you have a rare disease that isn't normally covered by the federal healthcare? What do you do?

 

Yes, fuck you American. The government wants to make your decision for you. SMART.