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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Curious what the reactions and opinions this season will be towards our players and their stats. It has been a constant theme on here for example when Kevin Love had been brought up. People used to blast the Love Boat for putting up "empty stats".
    Saying he is only averaging 25/15 because he plays on a crappy team and shoots so much.
    So I'm curious come mid December when we (in my opinion) will be 6-22, how you will judge if our guys are playing well or not based on "empty stats"
    Dame is going to get his 25ppg, but I have NO clue what the rest of the guys will average, let alone what the rotation will be.
    Just wondering if the same group of people, and there were quite a few of you, will claim our guys are throwing up "empty stats" as well.
     
  2. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Damian will average over 20ppg.

    I don't think anyone else will average over 15.
    CJ may come close and maybe Henderson, but I don't think anyone else will. Aminu may average double figures.
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    We need losses. Lots of losses. The more losses, the better.
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    If we're 6-22 in mid December, it means Olshey got fired and Sam Hinkie took over.....
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    6-22 would be perfect. This season would be a success if we lose games but succeed in developing talent. Get a top pick. Add talent.

    What could Neil Olshey do with a #1 pick? He got the second best player out of the 2012 draft with the 6th pick.
     
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    Depends on how each stat is obtained.

    If Lillard is leading the league in scoring by chucking up 50 shots a game, it is stat padding. If any stat is gained thru sacrificing the team goals, it is worthless IMO.
     
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    This season should be all about:

    1. Developing Noah Vonleh and see if he can be our PFOTF
    2. Seeing if CJ, Leonard, Plumlee are worth keeping long term
    3. Finding a deal for Kaman + ???? to get a young SG that can score

    That's it really. Aminu and Davis (and probably Plumlee) are glue guys we could always use forever. Everything else is just noise.
     
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    Yeah, and I don't think he's that guy. He's not going to jack up 50 shots. In fact, I thought he played better as the primary distributor. I beat the drum last season that he played better as a point guard when Batum was out. He handled the ball more, and he distributed the ball better when Nic wasn't in the lineup. He might average the most assists of his career this season.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    There aren't a lot of shooting guards that can score anymore. Maybe Ben McLemore?
     
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    Harrison Barnes or DeRozan. I guess a 3 or 4. No on Ben McLemore, has to be closer to being an all star, otherwise just roll the dice with CJ.
     
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    HCP, I don't think most people are going to look at it that way this year. Minny was a chronically bad team with a big stat guy. We are a totally rebuilding team with unknown pieces. If Portland is still lottery bound in 3-4 years then you can ask this question.

    Stats of interest:
    Dame: Assists. Personally, I don't really care what he scores. Is he trying to do more out of the PnR and get other guys involved.
    CJ: FG %, Asst: is he showing some ability to play PG? Is he taking good shots? Is he playing reasonable defense
    Meyers: # of threes v. # of dunks: Is he balancing his outside shooting with some post work? Is he rebounding and defending well?
    Plumlee: Reb and defensive shooting %: Is he a starting center?
    Harkless: 3pt %: Can he hit the open three?
    Aminu: 3pt %: Can he hit the open three?
    Crabbe: FG %, number of shots taken: can he be aggressive enough and take smart shots to be considered in the mix for SG minutes--or is he on his way out?
    Vonleh: Reb & FG %: Can he slow the game down enough to make smart moves? Is he rebounding and defending?
     
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    It's unfortunate that Bennett signed with the Raptors because he would have been a nice trade chip. Not sure what we could offer them at this point. All we have is young bigs.
     
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    I don't think they want to pay him max money and will be looking to dump him.
     
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    Sure, but we need assets. Kaman is a nice filler contract, but it would cost someone like CJ to get that done.
     
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    But we can just offer a max contract next summer. We're tanking for draft picks, we don't really need to get that SG now, we have the flexibility to do whatever we want.
     
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    What if the plan is to trade for someone like DeRozan and then sign someone like Barnes?
     
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    That would be...nice. To me, the only untouchables are Dame, Vonleh and our draft pick.
     
  19. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Bullshit. Tanking is for losers.
     
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    I'm not saying lose on purpose, but wins don't help us right now. If we aren't good enough to make the playoffs, wins will only hurt the advancement of this roster.


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