kevin durant

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  1. Serge

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    Yeah I don't think he be able to play PF. But you never know though. He is locked to go 2nd behind Oden if Oden comes out.Oden I think will go before him since he is a big.
     
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    ^You're probably right...but at least it isn't the slam dunk that Oden is the #1 overall guy like it was before the season. Durant will make a few teams think about it...he's got the skills to become a future allstar. But then again, if Oden comes out as good as Okafur or Howard...he'll be pretty damn good himself.I gotta agree with what someone said ealier. If Durant was on an east coast power, or in the ACC where Dicky V and those boys pumped him up much more than anyone should be...it could be a split vote between these two.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ Jan 14 2007, 06:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^You're probably right...but at least it isn't the slam dunk that Oden is the #1 overall guy like it was before the season. Durant will make a few teams think about it...he's got the skills to become a future allstar. But then again, if Oden comes out as good as Okafur or Howard...he'll be pretty damn good himself.I gotta agree with what someone said ealier. If Durant was on an east coast power, or in the ACC where Dicky V and those boys pumped him up much more than anyone should be...it could be a split vote between these two.</div>Yeah there be some talk of course. But I say very little if Oden comes out. Just because of how hard it is to get great big guys now a days. Centers like Oden come around only ones in a while.
     
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    That's true...a can't even argue it, lol.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ Jan 14 2007, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's true...a can't even argue it, lol.</div>haha good cause you would lose the argument. :HAHAHA: (hehe jk)
     
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    Kevin Durant is going to be a S-T-U-D. I was arguing with D12Howard on AIM about it. He said that he didn't think Durant was going to be a star, I had to refute that. He has all the tools, the athleticism, the size, and the work ethic. He's tearing up the NCAA as a freshman.

    I've only seen him a couple times this year, I want to see him more!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jan 15 2007, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>haha good cause you would lose the argument. :HAHAHA: (hehe jk)</div>Nah, I could win it, allthough I wouldn't believe it myself, lol.The guy could go #1 to the right team, or if a GM likes Durants talent and potential over getting a Big...but that's probably the only way.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ Jan 15 2007, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nah, I could win it, allthough I wouldn't believe it myself, lol.The guy could go #1 to the right team, or if a GM likes Durants talent and potential over getting a Big...but that's probably the only way.</div>"I could win it, even though I would not believe it myself" :HAHAHA: Some funny sh*tAnd to the person who argued that Durant won't be a stud care to explain why?
     
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    You know what - I just thought of a comparrison. Kevin Durant reminds me of what Johnathan Bender. Near 7 footers who can play sg - c, can shoot, handle, defend 4 posistions. Unfortuantley we will never know what Johnathan Bender could've been but as I watch Durant in the NBA I'll be thinking, 'this is what Johnathan Bender could've been'.
     
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    I don't like the Bender comparison at all, and think they don't play anything alike. Bender was about 7 feet tall, Durant is 6'9, 6'10. Durant takes more shots from the outside, can create off the dribble better than Bender could, rebounds better, and is just a better player than Bender was. I don't think their styles are much similar at all. I think of him as a better verson of Rashard Lewis when he gets to the NBA.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Mar 31 2007, 04:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't like the Bender comparison at all, and think they don't play anything alike. Bender was about 7 feet tall, Durant is 6'9, 6'10. Durant takes more shots from the outside, can create off the dribble better than Bender could, rebounds better, and is just a better player than Bender was. I don't think their styles are much similar at all. I think of him as a better verson of Rashard Lewis when he gets to the NBA.</div>Johnathan Bender could play point guard. He was a very good dribbler. Anyways - I see what you're saying about the Rashard Lewis thing but I think that he looks very much like Johnathan Bender did when he came into the NBA.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Mar 31 2007, 04:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't like the Bender comparison at all, and think they don't play anything alike. Bender was about 7 feet tall, Durant is 6'9, 6'10. Durant takes more shots from the outside, can create off the dribble better than Bender could, rebounds better, and is just a better player than Bender was. I don't think their styles are much similar at all. I think of him as a better verson of Rashard Lewis when he gets to the NBA.</div>
    Rashard Lewis is a nice prediction however I think that Antawn Jamison just a better scorer and defender. He's skinny and tall but athletic and great from the outside. I think that he will be Antawn Jamison taken to the next step. Similar playing style but Durant does it much better.
     
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    I'm seeing a better version of Rashard Lewis more than anything else. They have about everything in common with each other, except everything Lewis does, Durant does better. -Both are long and Lanky, with the same body type.+Lewis: 6'10-230+Durant: 6'9-225.-Both are extremely gifted scorers, able to score in a variety of ways. They can score off the dribble, they can score through shooting, both LOVE to shoot the three, they both have beautiful strokes. I know one plays college, and the other plays in the NBA, but their field goal percentages are almost identical for this year. Durant is averaging 47.3 percent from the field, whereas Lewis is averaging 47.4% from the field.-Neither are great playmakers for their teamates, they can set up for themselves to score, but they are not good at setting up their teamates to score.-Neither go into motion as much as they should, there are long amounts of time where Lewis seems content just standing there, and Durant sometimes gets that same idea to just stand there.Move set wise, they are similar. Body type, they are similar. Percentage wise they are similar. This is the guy he most plays like in the NBA in my opinion.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Mar 31 2007, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm seeing a better version of Rashard Lewis more than anything else. They have about everything in common with each other, except everything Lewis does, Durant does better.

    -Both are long and Lanky, with the same body type.
    +Lewis: 6'10-230
    +Durant: 6'9-225.

    -Both are extremely gifted scorers, able to score in a variety of ways. They can score off the dribble, they can score through shooting, both LOVE to shoot the three, they both have beautiful strokes. I know one plays college, and the other plays in the NBA, but their field goal percentages are almost identical for this year. Durant is averaging 47.3 percent from the field, whereas Lewis is averaging 47.4% from the field.

    -Neither are great playmakers for their teamates, they can set up for themselves to score, but they are not good at setting up their teamates to score.

    -Neither go into motion as much as they should, there are long amounts of time where Lewis seems content just standing there, and Durant sometimes gets that same idea to just stand there.

    Move set wise, they are similar. Body type, they are similar. Percentage wise they are similar. This is the guy he most plays like in the NBA in my opinion.</div>
    I'm not saying that the Rashard Lewis and Kevin Durant comparison doesn't work but let me point out that all these factors also are relevent to Antawn.

    Antawn Jamison 6'9 235
    Kevin Durant 6'9" 225

    - Their offensive games are very similar. Both can score in a variety of ways including three point shooting. Neither of them are great playmakers, both are 3's that will on a small team play the 4 spot.

    - Although you can compare Field Goal %'s from the NBA and college, Antawn shoots .458 from the field Durant shoots .473 from the field.

    - There are times that Antawn lets Caron or Gilbert take over for 3 to 4 minutes without getting too involved with the offense. When someone else is dominating the game he always takes a back seat.

    - Antawn is far from succesful on the defensive end and Durant is better but not the mos taccomplished defender.

    Durant will easily be a better player in all aspects of the game over Antawn when he comes to the NBA. However their playing styles are very similar as are Antawn and Rashard's. I'm standing by the Jamison comparison.
     
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    Jamison shoots three's but not nearly as often as what you have seen Rashard Lewis shoot three's over his career, and he is not as good of a three point shooter as Lewis is. Whereas Durant is the same type three point shooter that Lewis is, will take the same amount per year, as well as hit about the same percentage per year. That is part of the reason why I am picking a Lewis comparison. The free throw shooting is something else that has to be mentioned, Jamison is a 72 percent shooter, whereas Lewis and Durant are 80 percent free throw shooters. As far as defense goes, Texas's coach Barnes likes to run that 2-3 zone defense alot, so it's hard to tell sometimes how good of a defensive player Durant is so that will have to be held until the NBA for a constant look at how good of a shooter Durant is.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Mar 31 2007, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jamison shoots three's but not nearly as often as what you have seen Rashard Lewis shoot three's over his career, and he is not as good of a three point shooter as Lewis is. Whereas Durant is the same type three point shooter that Lewis is, will take the same amount per year, as well as hit about the same percentage per year. That is part of the reason why I am picking a Lewis comparison. The free throw shooting is something else that has to be mentioned, Jamison is a 72 percent shooter, whereas Lewis and Durant are 80 percent free throw shooters.

    As far as defense goes, Texas's coach Barnes likes to run that 2-3 zone defense alot, so it's hard to tell sometimes how good of a defensive player Durant is so that will have to be held until the NBA for a constant look at how good of a shooter Durant is.</div>
    Have you ever watched Antawn Jamison play? He makes his living off of that three point shot. Free throw shooting is a very small factor. Although it is relevant it is not a big part of the comparison between Antawn and Durant's game.

    Antawn has taken 1588 three pointers in his career, that is alot, although Rashard has shot well more Durant from what I've seen doesn't rely on that shot as much as Lewis does. Rashard in his career is 38%, Antawn is 35%. Not that big of a difference. Also I've said more than once I'm not comparing how succesful Durant will be compared to Antawn but how similar their games are.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Mar 31 2007, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Have you ever watched Antawn Jamison play? He makes his living off of that three point shot. Free throw shooting is a very small factor. Although it is relevant it is not a big part of the comparison between Antawn and Durant's game.Antawn has taken 1588 three pointers in his career, that is alot, although Rashard has shot well more Durant from what I've seen doesn't rely on that shot as much as Lewis does. Rashard in his career is 38%, Antawn is 35%. Not that big of a difference. Also I've said more than once I'm not comparing how succesful Durant will be compared to Antawn but how similar their games are.</div>Lewis takes 6 three's a game this year, At the college level Durant takes about 5.8 per game, which is up in Lewis area. Free throw shooting which is a part of basketball, Three point shooting, style of play, how they get their points, shooting percentages, everything is pointing towards Lewis more than Jamison.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Mar 31 2007, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lewis takes 6 three's a game this year, At the college level Durant takes about 5.8 per game, which is up in Lewis area. Free throw shooting which is a part of basketball, Three point shooting, style of play, how they get their points, shooting percentages, everything is pointing towards Lewis more than Jamison.</div>
    Ugh, you're joking right. Durant's game will evolve when he comes to the NBA you're comparing the amount of attempts Rashard takes and Durant takes.

    I don't understand why you don't htink Durant plays like Antawn, shooting %'s will change in the NBA for Durant as well. I'm expecting him to drive alot more rather than settle for three's like he did in college.

    Antawn is known for using his athletecism to get points when he doesn't have an open lane, that's what I expect Durant to start doing. Antawn and Rashard's playing styles are very similar with slight tweaks...

    I've said more than once that I think the Rashard comparison is good but I also stand by my Antawn comparison.
     
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    Your starting to use that "your joking" because your getting mad that I am proving my Lewis over Jamison theory right. Onto it, it's not like Lewis only settles for three's, he drives in and gets to the rim also. He is able to take just about anyone off the dribble, and can go to either hand. He gets to the rim fairly often also Which is part of why he shoots a high percentage from the field. He drives in if the lane is open, and he isn't afraid to stop and take the three. I'm expecting Durant to keep about the same percentage. Should lower his rookie season, but give it a year or two, and his percentages will be back up to what it is now.I'm not saying he doesn't play like Antawn, but I think Rashard Lewis is his most similar player in the NBA.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Mar 31 2007, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your starting to use that "your joking" because your getting mad that I am proving my Lewis over Jamison theory right.

    Onto it, it's not like Lewis only settles for three's, he drives in and gets to the rim also. He is able to take just about anyone off the dribble, and can go to either hand. He gets to the rim fairly often also Which is part of why he shoots a high percentage from the field. He drives in if the lane is open, and he isn't afraid to stop and take the three. I'm expecting Durant to keep about the same percentage. Should lower his rookie season, but give it a year or two, and his percentages will be back up to what it is now.

    I'm not saying he doesn't play like Antawn, but I think Rashard Lewis is his most similar player in the NBA.</div>
    I said you're joking because you were using statistics between college and NBA to prove your point. They don't transfer, the college game is much different.

    Antawn does all of the things that Rashard does as well. Rashard and Antawn play a very similar style, I don't know how good Durant would be at slashing in the NBA but from what I've seen all three of these players play very similar.

    Percentages don't matter if you'r comparing playing styles. Well if you suck at three point shooting the percentages do, but if it's a .03 percentage change it's not a huge difference. All three of these guys play very similar styles.
     

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