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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    never stopped me!

    just go with your gut feeling.
     
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    That usually just means I've fallen asleep
     
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    Even if it isn't now, couldnt it someday be evil? Would it be impossible to fathom the military overthrowing the government in the next 100 years? 200 years?

    That's the point. Sure we don't "need" guns now. Its not just about now. If you really think that it's impossible, that war on American soil is impossible to ever happen...that's just silly.
     
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    The lack of laws to keep guns out of their hands is worse. Take a gun out of his hands and how bad of harm can he do?
     
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    We banned drugs. How did that work out for us?
     
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    Now, if we could make every gun in the world dissapear overnight, and make them impossible to ever build again? I'm all for it.

    Not holding my breath.
     
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    Splendidly, for the prison system and the pharmaceutical companies.
     
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    This was intended?
     
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    Military overthrowing the government - sure. That's a different and much worse scenario though, because then you almost surely don't have Denny's fantasy of most of the military defecting to the citizens. And in that scenario, the military is free to use it's overwhelming force against the population (since it is calling the shots, and since shooting is what it knows how to do).

    200 years? Do you really think your gun is going to be relevant in a war 200 years from now?

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    Look at who lobbies for harsher drug laws. They aren't doing it for "the greater good".
     
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    barfo,

    I have no vision of any armed conflict between the citizens and the government. You're pulling that crap out of your ass.
     
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    Ray Guns!

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    Unintended consequences.
     
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    You sure about that?

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    Marvin the Martian.jpg
    This has come in so handy at times like these
     
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    If this military is still made up of Americans, asking them to bomb their mothers house might not work that great. Who knows.

    We dont see eye to eye on this, and thats fine, but it's common sense. As a dictator, would you rather the people be armed, or unarmed?

    As far as 200 years from now goes...there will be different guns 200 years from now I assume. With an intact right to bear them (hopefully).
     
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    I'm not calling for an armed overthrow of the government.

    I was asked what it would look like IF the government came to confiscate everyone's guns. Big IF.


    It would be bloody violent. There are 100M+ gun owners and I don't think they're going to give up their guns without a fight.

    100M+ is 50x the size of the military. The bigger guns haven't been effective against Iraq, about the size of California. Wasn't effective against Afghanistan. Wasn't effective against Vietnam. I don't see why anyone would think that a 2.7M military, minus those who'd defect to join the PEOPLE's side, would have more success on US soil against US citizens.

    It would be your kind that would force that kind of violence on us by trying to confiscate all the guns. You've given everyone reason to expect it will happen, it's just a matter of time. You're pathetic protests to the contrary are noted and dismissed.
     
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  18. Denny Crane

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    LOL

    barfo actually is expecting the military to bomb their mothers.
     
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    You should wait to LOL until we meet Barfo's mother.
     
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  20. Denny Crane

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    He says I have this "fantasy" that the military won't bomb their mothers.

    :dunno:
     
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