The Blazers should extend Meyers Leonard

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I've been thinking about this recently, but the more I think about it the more it makes sense. I think the Blazers should extend Meyers Leonard this offseason to a 4-year deal worth anywhere from 9 to 12 million (depending on how negotiations go) a year. And I would advocate this regardless of whether or not we resign LMA/Lopez/Matthews etc., but it obviously makes more sense if our free agents are gone. Sounds crazy to give a $10 million per year extension to a guy people wanted to cut a year ago for basically a half season's body of work but here's the reasoning...

1. It has no effect on our cap space this year. His contract is set for 2015-2016, it would only affect 2016 and beyond.

2. The salary cap is going to go up in 2016.....a lot. That $10 million dollars in 2016 is only gonna be worth $7 million in today's NBA. This gives us the chance to lock up a key contributor in his youth for a possible bargain. If Aldridge and or Lopez leaves, Leonard's role obviously increases, and makes the deal that much better. If not, he's still going to be a solid 6th/7th man even if he doesn't improve upon this year.

3. Similar players in today's CBA got paid similarly. 30 year old Channing Frye got 8 million a year. Marvin Williams got a 2 year/14 million dollar contract. Given Leonard's youth, ability to play center, and athleticism, surely he's worth at least as much as Channing Frye.

4. His deal will impact our capspace in 2016, but honestly capspace is overrated, especially for Portland. Literally EVERY team will have cap space in 2016, and unless Olshey believes we can sign two max free agents in the summer of 16, that capspace is going to be irrelevant. We're not competing on the free agent front with the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls etc....

5. Gives us some roster stability. Literally the only two players that are guaranteed to be here the next few years are Lillard and McCollum.

Now I obviously understand he's not worth 10 or 12 million at the moment, but young players showing signs of growth (especially bigs) are rarely paid what they're worth at the moment. There's always the chance that even if they offer an extension, he gambles on next season (more likely if LMA leaves). I would still push for a deal regardless. Throw some incentives to try and get him to sign. Hell give him a player option on that last year if he wants. If he decides to turn it down then we're SOL, but I think security for his family is incredibly important to him. This deal would basically guarantee him that.

What do you think?
 
I've been thinking about this recently, but the more I think about it the more it makes sense. I think the Blazers should extend Meyers Leonard this offseason to a 4-year deal worth anywhere from 9 to 12 million (depending on how negotiations go) a year. And I would advocate this regardless of whether or not we resign LMA/Lopez/Matthews etc., but it obviously makes more sense if our free agents are gone. Sounds crazy to give a $10 million per year extension to a guy people wanted to cut a year ago for basically a half season's body of work but here's the reasoning...

1. It has no effect on our cap space this year. His contract is set for 2015-2016, it would only affect 2016 and beyond.

2. The salary cap is going to go up in 2016.....a lot. That $10 million dollars in 2016 is only gonna be worth $7 million in today's NBA. This gives us the chance to lock up a key contributor in his youth for a possible bargain. If Aldridge and or Lopez leaves, Leonard's role obviously increases, and makes the deal that much better. If not, he's still going to be a solid 6th/7th man even if he doesn't improve upon this year.

3. Similar players in today's CBA got paid similarly. 30 year old Channing Frye got 8 million a year. Marvin Williams got a 2 year/14 million dollar contract. Given Leonard's youth, ability to play center, and athleticism, surely he's worth at least as much as Channing Frye.

4. His deal will impact our capspace in 2016, but honestly capspace is overrated, especially for Portland. Literally EVERY team will have cap space in 2016, and unless Olshey believes we can sign two max free agents in the summer of 16, that capspace is going to be irrelevant. We're not competing on the free agent front with the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls etc....

5. Gives us some roster stability. Literally the only two players that are guaranteed to be here the next few years are Lillard and McCollum.

Now I obviously understand he's not worth 10 or 12 million at the moment, but young players showing signs of growth (especially bigs) are rarely paid what they're worth at the moment. There's always the chance that even if they offer an extension, he gambles on next season (more likely if LMA leaves). I would still push for a deal regardless. Throw some incentives to try and get him to sign. Hell give him a player option on that last year if he wants. If he decides to turn it down then we're SOL, but I think security for his family is incredibly important to him. This deal would basically guarantee him that.

What do you think?
I am overall amenable to that idea, however I think both his camp and the Blazers might want a shorter deal. I assume an extension does not have to be 4 years but I could be wrong. I am thinking 3 years for 20-25 mil, If its for 4 years I have go lower then you because he is far from "proven", perhaps 4 years for 25-30 mil
 
I believe we have until the end of October to extend him, I would wait until the last possible moment. See how he comes into training camp and the preseason. Extending during the summer might take a little offseason motivation from him.
 
As crazy as it sounds, I don't think Leonard would accept that.
 
I am overall amenable to that idea, however I think both his camp and the Blazers might want a shorter deal. I assume an extension does not have to be 4 years but I could be wrong. I am thinking 3 years for 20-25 mil, If its for 4 years I have go lower then you because he is far from "proven", perhaps 4 years for 25-30 mil
3-4 years for Abercrombie is perfect. Reminded me of Read LeFrentz. I like the kid!
 
I am overall amenable to that idea, however I think both his camp and the Blazers might want a shorter deal. I assume an extension does not have to be 4 years but I could be wrong. I am thinking 3 years for 20-25 mil, If its for 4 years I have go lower then you because he is far from "proven", perhaps 4 years for 25-30 mil

Don't think there's a chance in hell he accepts that. The Blazers have to overpay for potential.

Way I see though is there's 4 scenarios:

1. He regresses, terrible deal.

2. He stays the same, bad deal, but hardly franchise crippling.

3. He improves a little, worth the contract.

4. He improves a lot, Olshey looks like a genius.

Reward > Risk IMO.
 
As crazy as it sounds, I don't think Leonard would accept that.

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Why don't we just sign his Qualifying Offer to make him restricted then see what the market dictates and decide to match/decline..?
 
Sounds like a good idea but let's see what the cap situation is like after we try to sign Lamarcus and Wesley.
 
You know, just because you had an idea for a post doesn't mean you actually have to post it.
 
What's the rush? The kid just got married. Give him that kind of money and he might start drinking like a fish!
 
Maybe we should trade him... I'm starting to think that if we're gonna try to contend next year we should try and Bulls some sort of package around 2 of CJ/Meyers/Batum + filler and trying to get another all star. We could use Afflalo as our backup SG and resign our guys and then use the MLE to fill out the bench. I don't know who said all star would be but if it's available shouldn't we go for one?
 
Remember the Luke Babbit and Steve Novak craze at the end of Kaleb Canales' season? That's the worst case scenario. I think Meyers will be fine but let's not get carried away. Good thing is he's made people believe he can play basketball. He's a keeper but he's not a max salary guy just yet.
 
Maybe we should trade him... I'm starting to think that if we're gonna try to contend next year we should try and Bulls some sort of package around 2 of CJ/Meyers/Batum + filler and trying to get another all star. We could use Afflalo as our backup SG and resign our guys and then use the MLE to fill out the bench. I don't know who said all star would be but if it's available shouldn't we go for one?
If we gave a package like that we better be getting back a Gasol or Cousins
 
~$11 million is way too much; I'd rather wait a year and make him prove it on the court even if we have to pay max money next summer. Similar to Draymond Green, Jimmy Bulter, Tobias Harris, they waited a year and now their teams know they are better players so they feel fine paying them. Meyers is so unproven I want to see what he does with big minutes.

If Meyers is willing to accept a smaller extension I'd be interested though.
 
Does the recent signing of John Henson to a 4 yr $44M extension give a ceiling to the potential extension of Meyers Leonard?

They were both drafted in 2012. Meyers 11th. Henson 14th.

2014-15 stats:
Henson: 7.0 ppg (13.8 per 36), 4.7 rpg (9.1 per 36), 2.0 bpg (4.0 per 36), 0.566 eFG, 18.0 PER
Leonard: 5.9 ppg (13.9 per 36), 4.5 rpg (10.6 per 36), 0.3 bpg (0.6 per 36), 0.606 eFG, 14.8 PER

The Blazers have until Oct 31 to work out an extension.
 
It's going to come down to whether him extending now would hamper next offseasons plans.

(extension amount next year) - (qualifying offer next offseason)

If olshey can save 5+ MM of cap room by waiting, it could be a strategy, but then we might end up paying more annual salary if he gets a big offer next year.
 
Teams should lean toward contracts like the suggested 4 yr $40M amount for unproven players in this boat, but with year 3 a team option and year 4 a player option. If the player is a bust, they're off the hook for year 4. But if the player becomes what everyone hopes, he's still well compensated for three years and then has an out. Everyone gets what they want with minimized risk.
 
Teams should lean toward contracts like the suggested 4 yr $40M amount for unproven players in this boat, but with year 3 a team option and year 4 a player option. If the player is a bust, they're off the hook for year 4. But if the player becomes what everyone hopes, he's still well compensated for three years and then has an out. Everyone gets what they want with minimized risk.

contracts cant have 2 separate options, cool idea though.

from the larry coon FAQ
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q59
A contract may not contain more than one option in the same season (for example, the last season cannot contain both a player option and a team option). In fact, a contract may not contain more than one option at all, with the following two exceptions:

  • A rookie scale contract for a first round draft pick contains a team option before both the third and fourth seasons. No other options are permitted in rookie scale contracts. See question number 49 for more information.
  • Under the previous CBA a six-year contract could contain an ETO prior to the fifth season and an option (player or team) prior to the sixth season. Since six-year contracts are not permitted under the current CBA, this is no longer possible. Only Chris Bosh, LeBron James and Dwyane Wade (each with an ETO in 2014 and a player option in 2015) remain with both an ETO and a player option.
 
I would wait to see how he doing in pre season has said we got oct 31 to sign him extension.
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen
 

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