<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Delonte4Prez @ Dec 30 2006, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he didnt say he was quicker on the first step he said IN THE QUOTE that he is better of the first dribble. He makes a good point saying that paul pierce is not very quick and he is still extremely effective off the first DRIBBLE. No matter what you say about ford's offense and how he can blow by ANYONE(which if he did he'd be avging 20+ now......especially with bosh out for some time) kirk is extremely close if not better offensively. But the determining factor is that ford is a liability on defense because of his size and is just not a good defender. Hinrich is a stubborn defender and is almost always covering the opposite team's best guard.</div>LOL. Anyone with quickness can average over 20 ppg? That is too stupid for me even to reply to. Okay, I get it. Earl Boykins and Speedy Claxton should also average 20 ppg. You can't automatically score 20 points a game just because your quick....And BTW, TJ has scored pver 20 in each of the past 4 games anyway.
I don't care if you warned me, haha, I really don't. Your opinion means little to me anymore. Just quote me the post your talking about where I said that Hinrich had the quicker first step.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I also never said TJ wasn't quicker. I said Hinrich is better off the first dribble, meaning his first step is better, and is more creative off of the dribble, nothing abuot quickness.</div>
Thank you for proving my point for me, CB4. His first step is better. Not quicker, better. Read my last sentence. "NOTHING ABOUT QUICKNESS"
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Dec 30 2006, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thank you for proving my point for me, CB4. His first step is better. Not quicker, better. Read my last sentence. "NOTHING ABOUT QUICKNESS"</div>This post I was talking about Hinrich, FYI, not Ford.Hinrich's step is better.Ford's is quicker. I thought you would have been able to get that about 2 pages back in this thread, but apparently not, I just spelt it out for you how I've been saying it all along, so hopefully you can fully grasp my bolded text, and finally realize what I've been saying all along.
What the hell is the difference between a better first step and a quicker first step? That makes no sense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 30 2006, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What the hell is the difference between a better first step and a quicker first step? That makes no sense.</div>OK this may be a little difficult for you because you're ignorant and stubborn but bear with me. I said Paul Pierce earlier. He isn't the quickest guy in the NBA, but he knows how to use the first step to gain the advantage on his man and get by him, and Pierce is one of the top players in the league at getting to the rim. Now take a guy like Ford. We'll use Ford since you know him oh so well. He may not have the great first move that Pierce does, but his speed allows him to get by defenders and to the rim. It's ok if you don't know everything about the NBA, I don't either. You can learn quite a few things from other members on this site if you don't let your ego get in the way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Dec 30 2006, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>OK this may be a little difficult for you because you're ignorant and stubborn but bear with me. I said Paul Pierce earlier. He isn't the quickest guy in the NBA, but he knows how to use the first step to gain the advantage on his man and get by him, and Pierce is one of the top players in the league at getting to the rim. Now take a guy like Ford. We'll use Ford since you know him oh so well. He may not have the great first move that Pierce does, but his speed allows him to get by defenders and to the rim. It's ok if you don't know everything about the NBA, I don't either. You can learn quite a few things from other members on this site if you don't let your ego get in the way.</div>Yeah, but you said that Ford had the quicker first step, not that he was simply quicker. I'm asking you what the difference is between having a better first step and having a quicker first step.
Haha, I already explained it once, and I've explained everything else multiple times. I have no further use for posting in this thread.
I'll take Kirk Hinrich. He plays in the flow of the offense, knows his limitations, he's very smart and plays very tough defense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 30 2006, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My question is very clear. Answer it.</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 30 2006, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, but you said that Ford had the quicker first step, not that he was simply quicker. I'm asking you what the difference is between having a better first step and having a quicker first step.</div> Just because it's quicker doesn't mean it's better. There is a difference.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Dec 30 2006, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just because it's quicker doesn't mean it's better. There is a difference.</div>Okay, what is the difference bwetween a quicker and better first step. How could you say that one person has a quicker first step, and the other has a better first step in a comparison? That just doesn't make sense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 30 2006, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay, what is the difference bwetween a quicker and better first step. How could you say that one person has a quicker first step, and the other has a better first step in a comparison? That just doesn't make sense.</div> A first step isn't all about speed, it involves technique...etc...it's pretty obvious to me.
Yeah, technique. You put your right foot ahead of your left foot. Damn, gotta love Kirk's first step technique.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 30 2006, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, technique. You put your right foot ahead of your left foot. Damn, gotta love Kirk's first step technique.</div> I would say Kirk has the better first step.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Dec 30 2006, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would say Kirk has the better first step.</div>I would say you're wrong.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 30 2006, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LOL. Anyone with quickness can average over 20 ppg? That is too stupid for me even to reply to. Okay, I get it. Earl Boykins and Speedy Claxton should also average 20 ppg. You can't automatically score 20 points a game just because your quick....And BTW, TJ has scored pver 20 in each of the past 4 games anyway.</div>I didnt say that anyone who is quick should avg 20 ppg you keep saying how TJ is a great offensive player and can blow by anyone, if you can blow by ANYONE with ease that would in effect leave you open to score.......if he had that kind of skill he would get a bucket or assist every time up court. You just think in such crude terms that he is fast so no one can defend him and that because kirk is slow he's not as good of an offensive threat. I know your just reaching for reasons why TJ is better but its a whole different thing when you go and misquote me and then flame on something that you imagined. Cool down and look at it from a non biased point of view thats all im saying.
